In 2013 Russell M. Nelson opened a stake in Armenia, what happened next?

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Giving Nelson credit for pandemic prophecy over "home-centered" church is a laughable farce that doesn't withstand even a few minutes of scrutiny.

That announced change in mid 2018 capped years, many years, of agonizing data review, test programs, surveys, feedback, focus groups and beta testing. Two hour church had been rumored since at least 2011 in my home ward, based on first-hand accounts of trial periods of 2 hour church windows around the country.

"Home-centered, church-supported" was, is, and always will be a marketing slogan attached to a human-researched response to waning attendance and growing inactivity -- particularly among youth.

Associating it with a prophetic pandemic preview is the height of cherry picking and lazy learning.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:43 pm
Giving Nelson credit for pandemic prophecy over "home-centered" church is a laughable farce that doesn't withstand even a few minutes of scrutiny
It truly didn't take me more than 3 seconds...
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 10:05 pm
pistolero wrote: I would have prefered he could have forseen the internet connectivity issues in less developed nations so they wouldn't be so isolated while at home.
Take it up with god, dude.
It's the type of thing that a rich charitable organization could come up with themselves without too much thought. But I suspect access to the interweb for the masses is the last thing Russell M. Nelson and LDS inc. wants.

Of course he (and I) did not mean literally take vitamins. I suspect you knew that, but are trying to discover potshots and sucker punches wherever you can.
This was on his global ministry tour in latin america, I wonder how this was translated. When you're a prophet, you really need to be precise with your words, because there will always be some who will take what you say at face value.

I find Russell M. Nelson a compelling and remarkable person as any in the secular world. As a prophet, he's about as unremarkable as they come.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Associating it with a prophetic pandemic preview is the height of cherry picking and lazy learning.
The height? Are you often prone to hyperbole?

My exceedingly high picking of fruits from trees matches the exceedingly low "god should just have made the pandemic disappear" lazy understanding of how god and prophecy works.
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Philo Sofee wrote: :roll: oh gawd.... so generic, so banal and so unprophetic. Had he bothered to warn about a world wide plague? THAT would have been a prophecy. Of course, you know this. Your milktoast expectation of prophets is perfectly equal with their own milktoast knowledge of the future.
It's "milquetoast" by the way.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:57 pm
Philo Sofee wrote: :roll: oh gawd.... so generic, so banal and so unprophetic. Had he bothered to warn about a world wide plague? THAT would have been a prophecy. Of course, you know this. Your milktoast expectation of prophets is perfectly equal with their own milktoast knowledge of the future.
It's "milquetoast" by the way.
And also banal and unprophetic.
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Dr Moore wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:43 pm
Giving Nelson credit for pandemic prophecy over "home-centered" church is a laughable farce that doesn't withstand even a few minutes of scrutiny.

That announced change in mid 2018 capped years, many years, of agonizing data review, test programs, surveys, feedback, focus groups and beta testing. Two hour church had been rumored since at least 2011 in my home ward, based on first-hand accounts of trial periods of 2 hour church windows around the country.

"Home-centered, church-supported" was, is, and always will be a marketing slogan attached to a human-researched response to waning attendance and growing inactivity -- particularly among youth.

Associating it with a prophetic pandemic preview is the height of cherry picking and lazy learning.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:14 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:02 pm
What would be the difference in he did not say home-centered and let people cut it to 2 fours? How do you know believers wouldn't have been better off if he didn't say home-centered and let them cut it 2 hours?
Still feels like you're joking. As I recall his eat your vitamins comment was nor a literal instruction. And could there be healthier people who do not take vitamins then some who do?
Certainly you can ponder on these things yourself without me leading you from point a to b to c.
You offered the prophecies but after a couple of questions it appears you are punting. Doesn't sound like you have much faith at all that the prophet speaks to God.
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Sledge wrote:
Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:54 pm
Dr Moore wrote:
Associating it with a prophetic pandemic preview is the height of cherry picking and lazy learning.
The height? Are you often prone to hyperbole?

My exceedingly high picking of fruits from trees matches the exceedingly low "god should just have made the pandemic disappear" lazy understanding of how god and prophecy works.
Typical and a reminder why I put you on ignore. Back on the list. You won’t engage the content because you can’t.
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Typical and a reminder why I put you on ignore. Back on the list. You won’t engage the content because you can’t.
LOL, yes, put me on ignore. Put all believing Latter-day Saints on ignore. That way you can remain in the echo chamber.
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