A taste of Prager U

[_honorentheos]

OMG! You missed your calling ceebs. This has been far funnier than Leno's Jay Walking! "I didn't say all Chinese people look the same to me so they must all have the same hair type and use the same shampoo. I called them Asians." Jesus I love you, ceebs. You are killing it.

Yeah - I butchered the analogy.

I'm glad you're getting so much joy out of it.

I don't get joy out of it. I don't believe your engagement with people whose political views differ from yours contains an ounce of sincerity. So it must be for laughs if it isn't for edification.

[_schreech]

God, stop it ceebs! You're killing me! It's like you were asked to be a stereotypical dumb out-of-touch white older male conservative and said, "Here, hold my beer."

I don't know what is more stereotypical dumb conservative: Talking like all Chinese are essentially the same carbon copy of one another with a one-size-fits-all genetic background? Or that assuming White and American are equally synonymous?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

In fact, if I do enjoy this status why in the world would I want to give it up? What naturalistic moral imperative do I have to willingly cede over my animal claim to stuff?

Doc, sometimes you just have to do the right thing. My son got invited to a party of a casual friend. He was told to come and bring friends if he wanted to. He and a friend showed up at the door of the party, but when the host came to the door, he looked at my son's friend, and then said to my son, come on in, but sorry, it's too crowded and I don't have room for both of you. ( Like that ever happens at a teenage party in suburban Jersey.)

Now, given how 17 year old boys don't always want to chat, it took me a while to get the rest of the story out of him. It turns out that his friend was a different race than everyone else at the party. His friend quickly got the idea and told my son he had to leave anyway and his uber was already on its way, and that he should go to the party and have fun.

I asked my son what he did. He said to me in surprise, "Mom, how could I go to a party where my friend is not invited like that?"

So yes, there are reasons to give up that status, that "privilege."

Look. You're not going to get an argument out of me that he didn't do the right thing. I think it's great he forwent a party with racists (and what in the world is he doing hanging out with racists? do you really want me to believe this was the very first time he was exposed to their racism, or was he put on the spot because he had a non-white friend there and he couldn't just roll with it?) Virtue is great, but you're telling us White privileged types that we're now to cede over money, connections, property, earning potential, and a host of other White privileges that ensure our ability to pass on our genes and secure our families' legacies because "it's the right thing to do."

That's insanity is what that is. That is 100% contra everything that nature is and what nature will always be. It's also delusional if one thinks that like-minded people are doing it, too. If that were the case there wouldn't be one White male professor, political leader, CEO, or whathaveyou because they would've voluntarily given up their status, position, money, and jobs (save for the shittiest ones because who wants to chip crap off the vats at a sanitation facility?).

Again. Is there some sort of hierarchical chart I can refer to when trying to check my privilege, what jobs I should be pursing, how much money I should be giving the government for redistribution, what kinds of good thoughts I should possess when it comes to me taking care of my own, and how much we should hold non-whites and non-males to account for actions that are incongruent with a civil society?

Because if there isn't a sanctioned chart that applies universally then White privilege is simply a vague, ambiguous, nebulous bogeyman that is used to shut White men down when they voice their notions of how the country in which they exist should operate. That's as bigoted and racist as anything the alt-right would have you believe about everyone else who isn't them.

- Doc

[_canpakes]

Because if there isn't a sanctioned chart that applies universally then White privilege is simply a vague, ambiguous, nebulous bogeyman that is used to shut White men down when they voice their notions of how the country in which they exist should operate. That's as bigoted and racist as anything the alt-right would have you believe about everyone else who isn't them.

There is no chart, and never will be one. But you are illustrating a flip side to this, inasmuch if ‘white privilege’ were used in such an indiscriminate and context-blind setting, it would be an example of ‘non-white privilege’.

But I don’t think that sensible minds are interpreting that the only use of acknowledging ‘white privilege’ is to deploy it in this manner.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Because if there isn't a sanctioned chart that applies universally then White privilege is simply a vague, ambiguous, nebulous bogeyman that is used to shut White men down when they voice their notions of how the country in which they exist should operate. That's as bigoted and racist as anything the alt-right would have you believe about everyone else who isn't them.

There is no chart, and never will be one. But you are illustrating a flip side to this, inasmuch if ‘white privilege’ were used in such an indiscriminate and context-blind setting, it would be an example of ‘non-white privilege’.

But I don’t think that sensible minds are interpreting that the only use of acknowledging ‘white privilege’ is to deploy it in this manner.

Well, whatever the case may be Imma hold onto that sweet, sweet, sweetass advantage as much as I can and use it to my benefit as often as I can. Sure it doesn't seem to do me any good here at mormondiscussions, but I think I can get it to work for me next time I have to pay my cable bill.

"Yes, I'd like my White privilege discount, please. Oh. What's that? I get it for free? SWEET."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_LeJfn_qW0

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

(and what in the world is he doing hanging out with racists? do you really want me to believe this was the very first time he was exposed to their racism... ?)

Did you miss my point that it was an invitation from a casual friend? Yes, he's a pretty popular kid and this generates a lot of new invitations for him, all the time. This was the first invitation to this person's home, where the casual friend engaged in far different practices than what was acceptable at school. That happens here a lot in suburban Jersey. You would fit right in. Needless to say, this experience led to my son not ever going to this kid's home again.

...or was he put on the spot because he had a non-white friend there and he couldn't just roll with it?

Are you damned kidding me? Yes, he was put on the spot. What do you mean "he couldn't roll with it"? I told you what he did, so If by "roll with it," you mean do something different like laugh it off, let his friend leave in an uber, and party with his new racist friends, then no, he chose not to "roll with it."

He obviously responded with far more integrity than you are capable of mustering.

Is there some sort of hierarchical chart I can refer to when trying to check my privilege, what jobs I should be pursing, how much money I should be giving the government for redistribution, what kinds of good thoughts I should possess when it comes to me taking care of my own, and how much we should hold non-whites and non-males to account for actions that are incongruent with a civil society?

No chart, just integrity.

Imma hold onto that sweet, sweet, sweetass advantage as much as I can and use it to my benefit as often as I can.

thankfully, I have raised my son to be better than that.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Lemmie,

Scene:

1 slot left. Lemmie's son waits outside the interviewer's office. A POC interviewee walks out the office. Interviewer informs her son it's down to him and the POC. This position virtually guarantee's a lifetime of wildest dreams coming true.

What would your son do if he were up for acceptance into a prestigious university program, but the other person is a POC?

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

Lemmie,

Scene:

1 slot left. Lemmie's son waits outside the interviewer's office. A POC interviewee walks out the office. Interviewer informs her son it's down to him and the POC. This position virtually guarantee's a lifetime of wildest dreams coming true.

What would your son do if he were up for acceptance into a prestigious university program, but the other person is a POC?

- Doc

Feel free to respond to my previous post before you ask me any idiotic questions. In particular, please enlighten everyone as to what you meant by suggesting my son "roll with it" when he found himself around others who were encouraging him to keep his white privilege by being racist.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Hey, man. I wouldn't know the first thing about going to racist parties. [violation of Spirit Paradise rule #2 deleted].

I see Lemmie refuses to answer the scenario in question. Noted, not surprised, but noted.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

[violation of Spirit Paradise rule #2 deleted]

What the heck happened here?

- Doc