The value of images

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Re: The value of images

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But Kevin, subbie posted a stimulating op focused on the nuance of voter behavior in relation to elegantly crafted thought-leading material by social influencers. Focusing on the facts behind social influencing completely missed the obvious point of this thread.

:rolleyes: :lol:
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Re: The value of images

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I mean, this is textbook post-modernism. smh. I mean, if this is where we're at and the GOP is good with it then the only truth is power, and those who wield it get to determine the narrative therefore we ought to align with those who're interested in maintaining their power if it benefits us.

Ok. I'm not really sure what that does for a democracy, but it's apparent to me a democracy is a farce to those currently in power, anyway.

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Re: The value of images

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subgenius wrote:And once again we see you guys not controlling the narrative.

And the lesson is that one should not try to explain doctored images to openly dishonest or half-witted people, because they’ll still vote for Trump anyway.

You run with an interesting crowd. You’ll probably end up prompting your descendants to save face by sweeping the memory of you right under the family rug.
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Re: The value of images

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subgenius wrote:
Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.


Are you being serious?
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Re: The value of images

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
subgenius wrote:
Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.


Are you being serious?

Your comment concludes with a question about whether you actually read the thread title and the OP.....or if you just wanted to join the "pile on subbie" brigade, of which no one is inferring anything about intimacy issues.
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Re: The value of images

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Kevin Graham wrote:
subgenius wrote:predicament? Are you wearing an eye patch and thus are operating at true half-wit speed?...how do you not understand the opening post ? Is it really too complex for you?
It wasn't about fake news, it wasn't about real news, it wasn't about hurricane Florence, and it wasn't about "gotcha"....you got your head so far up Maddow's tush that all you see, smell, taste, and speak is turd.

The premise was deliberately simple, it was about value...and while you may want to diminish its value, the reality is that this image was widely distributed...so wide that Anderson had to address it publicly (a mistake by the way). And once again we see you guys not controlling the narrative.


Yeah, you're that stupid. You post a meme from Don Trump's Twitter feed which includes a fake meme picture from a local news station with bold writing at the bottom asking "WHAT ELSE ARE THEY LYING ABOUT?", and you're now trying to play it off as if you weren't trying to mock the media at all. Had nothing to do with fake news you say. Nothing to do with Don Jr.'s coincidental post the day before. God you're dumb. Be a man for once in your life. Own up to something and stop hiding and making excuses.

Yes, your ability to not be distracted by the actual thread title; the OP line about "tin foil hat"; or even the lead-in for how such a meme could influence voters is such a "manly" trait. How are you not already scooped up by a prominent Democratic think tank? such insight indeed. I can only imagine how many selfies you must take in those moments where you proclaim - "I know what is really going on, yeah!"
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Re: The value of images

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
subgenius wrote:
Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.


Are you being serious?

Lol. He’s basically asking, “What do you think of my lie?”.
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Re: The value of images

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DoubtingThomas wrote:
subgenius wrote:Im curious what the Democrats on this board think about this image.


Are you being serious?

canpakes wrote:Lol. He’s basically asking, “What do you think of my lie?”.

I suspect its even worse than that. Subbie saw the post and thought, "Ha! that will rile up the conservative base and get them out to vote so the liberals can't take over Congress!"

The implication being conservatives have been forced onto their back foot by all of the negative press about Trump. As subbie called it a counterpunch the further implication is that this blow being struck off of the conservative back foot serves to remind anyone thinking the onslaught is legit that the media lies so they shouldn't worry about what the media is saying. In subbie land, he decided a million people in the US were persuaded by that meme to either vote Republican who might not have otherwise, or get Republican voters to the polls who might have been feeling like they had other things to do that day.

What subbie is most guilty of, though, is projecting his own view onto the majority of people and asserting that the higher truths that cause him to be unbreakably anti-liberal are all that matter to most people as well. But I'd argue more people are like Jersey Girl than any of the rest of us. Jersey Girl seems to be someone who, while having primarily conservative values and can get caught up in the immediate reaction to a post nonetheless takes the truth content of whatever she is consuming from the media into account. She has expressed frustration over the lack of clarity in news media which is common. And the most common reaction, and the one negative campaigners hope to accomplish, is to tune out or not participate. I don't think Jersey Girl is a non-participant, to be clear. I'm just pointing out she is our closest analog to how I think most people approach elections compared to subbie, EA, Kevin Graham or the majority of people who post here in Spirit Paradise. We're not representative. Neither is the Spirit Prison crowd.
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Re: The value of images

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I don't understand why subby is so keen to humiliate himself! He clearly loses massively almost every time! He must be a masochist of some kind.
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Re: The value of images

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He thinks he's winning and we are too stupid to see why the facts don't matter in cases like this. While there is clearly a segment of the population to whom that applies he is not really grasping that his view doesn't come from rejecting facts but instead prioritizing the greater truth of his political allegiance over the content of any one particular source or meme. He sits pretty far to one side of a spectrum and it isn't where the deciding votes get picked up in any given election. Neither are the people who occupy the purely analytical end of the spectrum. The meat of the curve is at a convergence of emotion and fact where blatant obvious issues like the meme in the OP can only move the needle so much when the meme itself misrepresents the facts.
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