Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Re: Kavanaugh and Perjury

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DoubtingThomas wrote:An investigation is just an investigation, nothing more.


Please describe to me what you think will happen when an investigation based on allegations that happened so long ago, with corroborating witnesses equaling approximately zero, will produce? Let's say a couple of associates from the accuser's past state they heard something, what then? We're still back to square one with corroborating witnesses denying the allegations.

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Kevin Graham wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I see Kevin isn't going to argue in good faith. That's ok. Par for the course. *shrugs*

- Doc


You may need to seek some kind of therapy. You're literally quoting White House PR statements from the most dishonest administration in US history.

You have issues accepting the credibility of named people claiming to have known Kavanaugh to be a sexual pervert, but you have no problem accepting the credibility of an anonymous "best friend" of who says she hasn't spoken to her "best friend" in over 10 years.

According to Ramirez, “I wasn’t going to touch a penis until I was married,” she told The New Yorker. “I was embarrassed and ashamed and humiliated.” She said she shared some details about what happened with her mother and sister at the time, but not all of it, because of the embarrassment.

So she never claimed to have told any friends about it so for any "friends" to come forth saying they knew nothing about it is irrelevant. And I love how you and the Right Wing media go ahead and take it for granted that this mystery person is truly her "best friend" without vetting her or asking Ramirez if she even knows her.


This is Kevin Graham, folks. I simply post the White House's rebuttal and he's so emotional, so insecure, so in the tank for the Leftists he thinks therapy is in order.

The blind spots the partisans on this thread have can only be matched by the most fervent of believers in their chosen faith. I guess if religion isn't doin' it for you any more you can always put your faith into politics. Good luck with that one.

- Doc
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Re: Kavanaugh and Perjury

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Maybe I've missed it somewhere Doc but it seems like your ignoring that the FBI has conducted investigations like this before. Basically all the background check they conducted previously was to fact find, dump it into a file, then send it on to the White House. This would be them following up on anything that came up from those initial finds, coupled with additional interviews with the parties involved. The Anita Hill turnaround was just 3 days, I'm failing to see why the same thing couldn't have been done here.

Additionally, several people who I trust highly on matters of criminal justice have suggested that it is quite possible to do some investigative work here and I've not seen much from those talking to refute that.
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Avenatti about to drop the hammer:

https://Twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/sta ... 9084828672

Insists he has credible evidence though we're not sure what exactly that is. Kavanaugh's signature in a yearbook seems pretty damning however.

"FFFFFFourth of July."

Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them.

He also mentioned the term “Devil’s Triangle,” a phrase that refers to sex between two men and one woman.

Of course Doc will call all of this a late hour Democratic attempt to smear Kavanaugh. But a forensic document analyst can determine when the signature was made, if not who made it.
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Kevin Graham wrote:Avenatti about to drop the hammer:

https://Twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/sta ... 9084828672

Insists he has credible evidence though we're not sure what exactly that is. Kavanaugh's signature in a yearbook seems pretty damning however.

"FFFFFFourth of July."

Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them.

He also mentioned the term “Devil’s Triangle,” a phrase that refers to sex between two men and one woman.

Of course Doc will call all of this a late hour Democratic attempt to smear Kavanaugh. But a forensic document analyst can determine when the signature was made, if not who made it.



Someone posted this image, apparently from the yearbook, of the comment. Avenatti has too many "F"s.

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Correction: Looks like this is the actual picture.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/9 ... -One-Woman
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Xenophon wrote:Maybe I've missed it somewhere Doc but it seems like your ignoring that the FBI has conducted investigations like this before. Basically all the background check they conducted previously was to fact find, dump it into a file, then send it on to the White House. This would be them following up on anything that came up from those initial finds, coupled with additional interviews with the parties involved. The Anita Hill turnaround was just 3 days, I'm failing to see why the same thing couldn't have been done here.

Additionally, several people who I trust highly on matters of criminal justice have suggested that it is quite possible to do some investigative work here and I've not seen much from those talking to refute that.


Kavanaugh has had six full scope poly background investigations done. They're pretty extensive and thorough, but I have no idea how thorough in his case since I'm not privy to his files. Since polygraphs are now not considered reliable, unless of course it's done by a Democrat operative, I suppose we can ignore the questions that are posed during one (like, 'have you ever committed a felony' for example).

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Kevin Graham wrote:Avenatti about to drop the hammer:

https://Twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/sta ... 9084828672

Insists he has credible evidence though we're not sure what exactly that is. Kavanaugh's signature in a yearbook seems pretty damning however.

"FFFFFFourth of July."

Find them, French them, Feel them, Finger them, F*ck them, Forget them.

He also mentioned the term “Devil’s Triangle,” a phrase that refers to sex between two men and one woman.

Of course Doc will call all of this a late hour Democratic attempt to smear Kavanaugh. But a forensic document analyst can determine when the signature was made, if not who made it.


Lol. A forensic document analysis. Lol, Jesus Christ.

And this is exactly what this is, a late Hail Mary to destroy him based on what he may or may not have done, or said, or drank AS A TEEN. It's the oddest thing to see Democrats get bent out of shape over allegations made against a teen, but did mental contortions when it was their guy AND turn into vicious bullies, ignoring any counter character testimonials, because it contradicts what they think passes for proof.

:redface:

- Doc
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Kavanaugh has had six full scope poly background investigations done. They're pretty extensive and thorough, but I have no idea how thorough in his case since I'm not privy to his files. Since polygraphs are now not considered reliable, unless of course it's done by a Democrat operative, I suppose we can ignore the questions that are posed during one (like, 'have you ever committed a felony' for example).

- Doc
Personally I'm not much a fan of polys and that has been my position for some time. Are you of the opinion it isn't reasonable to have the FBI do a Hill-style follow up just to be sure? I figure this has to go til at least Thursday as we wait for testimony, why not do a little leg work while we wait?
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The the Right Wing's Christian savior on all things Abortion thought it was cool to brag about damned and forgetting girls in High School, as well as engaging in threesome sex.


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Xenophon wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Kavanaugh has had six full scope poly background investigations done. They're pretty extensive and thorough, but I have no idea how thorough in his case since I'm not privy to his files. Since polygraphs are now not considered reliable, unless of course it's done by a Democrat operative, I suppose we can ignore the questions that are posed during one (like, 'have you ever committed a felony' for example).

- Doc
Personally I'm not much a fan of polys and that has been my position for some time. Are you of the opinion it isn't reasonable to have the FBI do a Hill-style follow up just to be sure? I figure this has to go til at least Thursday as we wait for testimony, why not do a little leg work while we wait?


You mean go on a fishing expedition? I don't see why that's necessary when anyone else can reach out, tweet, post a Facebook message, write a memo, or whatever. The other thing is you have to look at it from the FBI's point of view. Are they conducting a background investigation, or are they conducting a criminal probe? Kavanaugh, say he were guilty of groping and manhandling teen Ford, isn't guilty of rape or even attempted rape unless he just ups and admits he was trying to penetrate her. What, exactly, is the FBI investigating if it's not a felony? Why can't the local PD conduct an investigation? Oh, that's right, Ms. Ford hasn't filed a report.

So. Trump isn't going to order the FBI to question people about the allegations.

The MD Gov isn't going to order his State police to do it.

Ms. Ford hasn't filed a report where the alleged assault took place (is it because she has no idea where it happened?).

We're stuck with shaky allegations where people she said that were there deny it happened, she can't remember basic deatils like how she got there or back or with whom, and the FBI, even if they somehow moved forward with this, has what, exactly, to work with?

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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