Dennis Prager, moral paragon

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ajax18 wrote:Why did she wait 35 years to come forward with this?

What a dumb damned question.

You really want to know why? Because as soon as a woman comes out with a story like this, idiots ask dumb damned questions about it like you just did. They have to endure more crap to defend the reality of the crap they already endured. It's not worth it, especially when very little has been done about these situations historically.

Have you reported every crime committed against you?

I mean seriously, did you really need this explained to you? If so, I pity the women in your family.
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Because Kavanaugh might be a Supreme Court Justice and that was sufficient to provoke her, it seems. If it's true, anyway


She's provoked because she doesn't want a conservative on the supreme court especially one who might overturn Roe v. Wade. If this sexual assault were as bad as she is saying don't you think she had a duty to report it at the time?
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ajax18 wrote: If this sexual assault were as bad as she is saying don't you think she had a duty to report it at the time?

Did you ask this question because you thought the last one wasn't sufficiently dumb? I tried to point out that it was, indeed, damned dumb. This one is worse.

Don't you have a duty to quit asking dumb damned questions?
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ajax18 wrote:
Because Kavanaugh might be a Supreme Court Justice and that was sufficient to provoke her, it seems. If it's true, anyway


She's provoked because she doesn't want a conservative on the supreme court especially one who might overturn Roe v. Wade. If this sexual assault were as bad as she is saying don't you think she had a duty to report it at the time?

Or she doesn't want someone who tried to rape her on the Supreme Court? That's beyond the bounds of your imagination?
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Or she doesn't want someone who tried to rape her on the Supreme Court? That's beyond the bounds of your imagination?


If he really tried to rape her, she should have reported it 35 years ago.
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ajax18 wrote:
Or she doesn't want someone who tried to rape her on the Supreme Court? That's beyond the bounds of your imagination?

If he really tried to rape her, she should have reported it 35 years ago.

Why aren't you answering my question, ajax? Have you reported every crime ever committed against you in your life?

I suspect you aren't answering that question because it would screw up an argument somewhere deep down you have to know is idiotic. It's also why you keep avoiding the numerous people providing reasons why women don't report these crimes.

You're being a typical Drumpf supporter: willfully obtuse / dishonest. The only person you're fooling is yourself, and I even doubt that's happening.
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ajax18 wrote:If he really tried to rape her, she should have reported it 35 years ago.
The callousness with which you post is just astonishing to me sometimes.
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Why aren't you answering my question, ajax? Have you reported every crime ever committed against you in your life.


I've never had so serious a crime as rape committed against me. You're the one who is not answering my question. If someone really tried to rape her, does she not have an obligation to report it or is it ok to not report it and wait for the right time to bring it up 35 or even 50 years later?
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ajax18 wrote: I've never had so serious a crime as rape committed against me.

That's not answering the question, but it does give some insight into your (lack of) ability to suspend your own experience and try to empathize with someone who's been through something highly disturbing. It's not like women are raped and think to themselves, "Well that kind of sucked. Oh well, what can ya do?"

So are you saying people have a duty to report all crimes, provided they're serious crimes? Do you think women never believe the line, "If you tell anyone, I'll come back and kill you"?

ajax18 wrote:You're the one who is not answering my question. If someone really tried to rape her, does she not have an obligation to report it or is it ok to not report it and wait for the right time to bring it up 35 or even 50 years later?

No, I don't think she has an "obligation" to report it. It would be nice, and if she were a fully mature adult, we might hope for more. But a traumatized teenager? One that might not know if these guys planned to try it again, or worse? One that's likely never dealt with law enforcement before?

I've never been raped either, but if I were, I imagine having to deal with all kinds of crap that would take a larger priority than reporting it. You talk about this like someone stole her car.
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Ajax, one of the reasons women don't report to the police is reasonable fear of blowback against them plus a reasonable fear that police can't or won't do anything about it. That would be even more reasonable decades back.

I would applaud people who take on those risks to report, but I do understand those who do not. I view it more like acts of significant altruism. Comendable, but not obligated.

There are women in your life who may have been assaulted that you don't know about. I'd be careful making these kind of comments around them.
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