4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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_Kevin Graham
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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subgenius wrote:what difference does a wall make then? Its like 1/10 of a percent of the budget....why do you even care if the wall gets built? I mean, can you even compose an argument why the wall shouldn't be built?...you already admit that there is wall, and you admit that wall can work in places and maybe not in others.
So, are you just against a physical wall but support an administrative wall? or do you just believe "border" is a concept that has run its course and border patrol and customs should be completely abolished?

you guys arguing against stuff becsuse "Trump" is tiresome and frankly and embarassment fot you at this point.


The wall makes no difference, it is just pissing money away to satisfy a minority group of Trump sucking morons like you. $5.6 billion won't build a 2,000 mile wall, it is just a slippery slope taste to get started on the foundation. Once you start funding it, funding will have to continue and it is likely to exceed $40 billion. All for nothing because a wall does nothing and only people who don't understand physics are the ones who don't get it. All it will do is provide a large monument celebrating our racism and stupidity. After all, no border along the Canadian line, right? I'm sure you can google an example of someone crossing the Canadian line illegally and then killing an American citizen. But its those brown people you're worried about. Must suck to live in a political/religious world where you're taught to self-loathe. You probably believe you were sinful in the preexistence.

If the arguments for a wall are so logical then why is Trump and his mouth pieces making up ridiculous lies like this? 4,000 terrorists apprehended at the border? Made up lie. The actual number is zero. 63,000 American citizens murdered by illegal aliens since 9/11? Another lie told by this administration.

You act like you have a serious problem when people on the internet say things that aren't factually accurate, but when the guy you voted for does it on a daily basis, all you say is how it is a game that gives you giggles. No, you're not a serious person interested in what's true, moral or logical. You're human garbage.
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subgenius wrote:what difference does a wall make then? Its like 1/10 of a percent of the budget....why do you even care if the wall gets built? I mean, can you even compose an argument why the wall shouldn't be built?...you already admit that there is wall, and you admit that wall can work in places and maybe not in others.
So, are you just against a physical wall but support an administrative wall? or do you just believe "border" is a concept that has run its course and border patrol and customs should be completely abolished?

So, your argument is to spend money on something that serves no purpose 'just because' it's an arguably minor expenditure relative to the entire budget?

Do you have to practice saying these sorts of things to yourself in a mirror before typing them out? How does this even begin to make any fiscal, conservative, or general sense?


subgenius wrote:you guys arguing against stuff becsuse "Trump" is tiresome and frankly and embarassment fot you at this point.

Pretty sure the most embarrassing thing here is your continued mangling of the language.
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
subgenius wrote:you guys arguing against stuff becsuse "Trump" is tiresome and frankly and embarassment fot you at this point.


Where would the wall be built you mega dip crap?

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You'll have better luck asking a box of chalk this question than subs.

But maybe he can offer to chart a strategy for us through this mess of interconnecting waterways and border towns.

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What makes this all the more stupid is that, as pointed out by Wallace in the above link about his interview with Sanders, almost all real and likely terrorists coming into this country that were apprehended, were apprehended at airports. TSA employees are among those federal employees not getting paid due to the shutdown, and are among the most likely to fail to report to work or quit out of frustration and economic necessity to find some other source of income. This is far more likely to adversely affect national security than failure to build Trump's stupid wall! The wall, if finally built, will stand mainly as a monument to Trump's monumental ego and stupidity!
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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Kevin Graham wrote:The wall makes no difference,

the spittle on your chin says otherwise.

Kevin Graham wrote:it is just pissing money away to satisfy a minority group of Trump sucking morons like you. $5.6 billion won't build a 2,000 mile wall, it is just a slippery slope taste to get started on the foundation. Once you start funding it, funding will have to continue and it is likely to exceed $40 billion.

Look at you being all suddenly budget conscious...so ok $40b is still just .07 of a percent for 1 year's budget....but again, spittle isn't an argument and insults aren't a convincing position.
But to be fair, you are currently arguing that it is about the money. Is that your only reason? this .07 of 1 percent?


Kevin Graham wrote: All for nothing because a wall does nothing and only people who don't understand physics are the ones who don't get it.

Weird because walls do lots of things. Are you proposing that the walls currently in existence at the border(s) are doing nothing?...is this an answer to the previous question about your position on border/customs?...or are you still avoiding that because you can not resolve the dissonance in your mind?


Kevin Graham wrote: All it will do is provide a large monument celebrating our racism and stupidity. After all, no border along the Canadian line, right? I'm sure you can google an example of someone crossing the Canadian line illegally and then killing an American citizen. But its those brown people you're worried about. Must suck to live in a political/religious world where you're taught to self-loathe. You probably believe you were sinful in the preexistence.

Yes, I am sure worried about brown people because white guys like you are the best.

Kevin Graham wrote:If the arguments for a wall are so logical then why is Trump and his mouth pieces making up ridiculous lies like this? 4,000 terrorists apprehended at the border? Made up lie. The actual number is zero. 63,000 American citizens murdered by illegal aliens since 9/11? Another lie told by this administration.

I believe the question was for you to provide an argument for "no wall" or for "partial wall" - or for anything....your constant drivel of "wah wah Ornage man bad" is not convincing.

Kevin Graham wrote:You act like you have a serious problem when people on the internet say things that aren't factually accurate, but when the guy you voted for does it on a daily basis, all you say is how it is a game that gives you giggles. No, you're not a serious person interested in what's true, moral or logical. You're human garbage.

Well, at least i know my audience ya white guy product of Georgia public schools.
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Well, at least i know my audience ya white guy product of Georgia public schools.

Oh, look. You’re playing your race and privilege cards again. How adorable. : )
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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Subs is pretending no argument against the wall has been made.

This is the guy who willfully ignored the video clips I provided twice now:

https://Twitter.com/jacobsoboroff/statu ... 1476669440

Watch the 45 second mark where they go down to an existing wall and interview a Hidalgo County officials who say it just doesn't work.

"As you can see it isn't holding them. It is a very impractical thing. It is a very expensive thing to construct, and it doesn't work."

There is also that argument that the land is mostly privatized, and you can't build a federal wall on private land without stealing it, which takes years to accomplish in the courts.

The wall is stupid. It doesn't work. It is expensive. And it serves no purpose other than to rile up racist morons like Trump's base. That's it. He wants it for political reasons. The American people don't want it and they shouldn't be forced to pay for it especially after the person who wanted it in the first place promised them that they wouldn't have to.

But to subs, no real argument has been made against the wall.

Meanwhile, "Look at Israel" is his line of stupidity.

Here are Trump's border wall prototypes:

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And I'm still waiting for him to explain why no wall is being proposed along the Canadian line.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
subgenius wrote:you guys arguing against stuff becsuse "Trump" is tiresome and frankly and embarassment fot you at this point.


Where would the wall be built you mega dip crap?

- Doc

speaking of stupid...which post did i say that i would build the wall?
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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subgenius wrote:speaking of stupid...which post did i say that i would build the wall?

Heck, you can’t even build a good argument at this point.
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Re: 4,000 terrorists crossing the border

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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:speaking of stupid...which post did i say that i would build the wall?

Heck, you can’t even build a good argument at this point.
So he thinks it is silly that Democrats won't give over the money for the wall but he isn't in favor of building it... okay...
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