Chicago mass shooting

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Re: Chicago mass shooting

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subgenius wrote:
Goya wrote:So does that mean you'll explain and source your graph?

To what end? the meaning of graph is blatantly obvious in this context and either you agree or disagree, you feiging confusion is disingenuous and speaks only to the fact that you are predisposed on the matter, and to that end no source or "explanation" will serve any purpose other than to satisfy your desire deconstruct a contrary position in hopes that a juicy center will justify your inadequate reasoning on this matter.
But thanks for the offer.
You got the graph almost certainly from a white supremacist source. The graph itself appears to present fabricated data to make the point that gun homicides are a racial composition problem rather than a gun access problem.

You don’t state your source or your reasoning because you want to deal with none of this. For someone who likes to use “cfr” as a cudgel, you sure like to avoid supplying references.
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Goya wrote:Ha! All this to say that you don't dare explain your graph and are afraid to give your source. Next time maybe you should just post a photo of puppies.

Hold on. It’s not that simple. He’ll first need to photoshop the puppies into a Klan rally and then claim that they’re blue dog democrats, or somesuch.

These things take some time.
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subgenius wrote:
Goya wrote:So does that mean you'll explain and source your graph?

To what end? the meaning of graph is blatantly obvious in this context and either you agree or disagree, you feiging confusion is disingenuous and speaks only to the fact that you are predisposed on the matter, and to that end no source or "explanation" will serve any purpose other than to satisfy your desire deconstruct a contrary position in hopes that a juicy center will justify your inadequate reasoning on this matter.
But thanks for the offer.

Shorter subs:

“I pulled this out of my arse and dropped it here because I have no idea what I’m talking about”.

That’s about it.
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subgenius wrote:yep, none of you cared about shootings until it was white people like you.


These folks would disagree with you.

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Before you ask, no you don't need to know where this data came from. If you refuse to accept this data and frame the debate around it then that just shows how biased and blind you are on this topic.
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Xenophon wrote:Before you ask, no you don't need to know where this data came from. If you refuse to accept this data and frame the debate around it then that just shows how biased and blind you are on this topic.

And not only on this topic!

Though, I must say, that even subby has occasionally come up with some commendable comments, for which I felt I had to, in fairness, commend him on.
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Xenophon wrote:Image

Lol. Oh, my goodness. :smile:
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Goya wrote:Ha! All this to say that you don't dare explain your graph and are afraid to give your source. Next time maybe you should just post a photo of puppies.

a.k.a., see "predisposed" comment above.
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Huh. I just found this:

“I have never believed in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general practice of carrying weapons. I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” — Karl Frederick, NRA President 1934

Seneca said good ideas transcend geography. I agree.

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EAllusion wrote:I reverse image searched his graph and only found it linked on explicit white supremacist locations and 4chan where white supremacists tend to congregate.

It "cites" the CDC and WHO, but good luck actually finding those numbers there.

Pretty good odds these are false statistics meant to exaggerate a pattern made up by hardcore racists to imply that America's gun violence issue is the result of racial constitution.

I'm sure subgenius will prove us wrong now by citing the CDC and WHO studies that show the numbers in this graph.

So is not the content if the graph but rather the author that you are basing your dismissal upon.
such idiocy is old hat for you...who cares for content when you can argue packaging...typical Liberal you are.

But that's cool, data that disagrees with you, must just be from racism, and thus really just proves you correct

Compared with white men, the researchers found that black men experienced 27 more firearm homicides per 100,000 people annually nationwide (29.12 for black men vs. 2.1 for white men)
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