Hurting Economically Does Not Absolve a Trump Vote

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Perfume on my Mind wrote:It's always been strange to me that GOP voters don't seem to care about America's reputation abroad, but then I realized: they don't give a ____ about their own personal reputation. They support the GOP, after all.

Shameless.


I think your argument Schmo is that if enough people shame some behavior it will significantly decrease how many people misbehave.

Think of it this way. Christians have been shaming unwed mothers and divorce for quite some time. Has the number of single mothers increased or decreased over time? What about the divorce rate? The right has been shaming people who like to be stoned all the time? How many people refrain from getting drunk or getting high over this? What about disability fraudsters and tax cheats? Do you really think they give a rip if I think what they're doing is shameful?

Shame is such a weak motivational force. People need to understand why these things are in their best interest.
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ajax18 wrote:Think of it this way. Christians have been shaming unwed mothers and divorce for quite some time. Has the number of single mothers increased or decreased over time? What about the divorce rate? The right has been shaming people who like to be stoned all the time? How many people refrain from getting drunk or getting high over this? What about disability fraudsters and tax cheats? Do you really think they give a rip if I think what they're doing is shameful?

Well, there's a difference between matters that are illegal and matters that are determined by cultural opinion.

Some people are crooks. They will always be crooks. As I implied, shame doesn't work on the shameless.

ajax18 wrote:Shame is such a weak motivational force. People need to understand why these things are in their best interest.

If they feel avoiding shame is in their best interest, it will motivate them.

And it's important to point out that even when there are cultural shifts, it doesn't mean we've arrived at 100% agreement. There are still people who make homophobic jokes these days, even though most people don't.
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And it's important to point out that even when there are cultural shifts, it doesn't mean we've arrived at 100% agreement. There are still people who make homophobic jokes these days, even though most people don't.


I guess Johnny Cochran was able to racially shame us into letting OJ Simpson get away with murder.
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ajax18 wrote:
And it's important to point out that even when there are cultural shifts, it doesn't mean we've arrived at 100% agreement. There are still people who make homophobic jokes these days, even though most people don't.

I guess Johnny Cochran was able to racially shame us into letting OJ Simpson get away with murder.

Aw, c’mon Ajax. You mean Cochran “shamed” the nine black folks on the jury in the criminal case into voting not guilty? How does that work?

Several of the jurors gave interviews after the trial about why they reached the unanimous verdict. Here’s one of many articles.

https://www.bustle.com/articles/151739- ... able-doubt

And the mostly white jury that found against Simpson in the civil trial certainly wasn’t shamed into letting him off the hook.

Aren’t you the guy who constantly complains about people making everything about race?
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:There are still people who make homophobic jokes these days, even though most people don't.


Get a load of this faggot.

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Lol. Fearful NPC is back with his mommychan memes.
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Smokey wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:There are still people who make homophobic jokes these days, even though most people don't.


Get a load of this faggot.

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Squirrel!!!!!

Smokey has just proved the case for why government whistleblowers need protection. He knows that the identity of the whistleblower is irrelevant to the accuracy of the information in the complaint, which has been verified by several witnesses, including the Call transcript. This is a sad and desperate attempt to distract from the President’s actions.
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We read the call transcript. Everyone knows this is just more dirty politics. Democrats can’t win 2020, their best candidate is on video groping women and children, bragging about extorting the Ukrainian government, and stroking out during a debate.

What a time to be alive.
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It's safe to say Smokey is a fuck-up. We could just agree on that and then ignore him.

This is my last comment on the neo-nazi moron.
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