The New War with Iran

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_Icarus
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Re: The New War with Iran

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So Trump tweeted that we're not leaving Iraq until Iraq pays us money. DOes this mean he doesn't consider Iraq a sovereign nation, and that we're not an occupying force against their will?
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Re: The New War with Iran

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GOP COngressman tweets and fake image of Obama shaking hands with the Iranian leader. They never met.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -never-met
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Icarus wrote:GOP COngressman tweets and fake image of Obama shaking hands with the Iranian leader. They never met.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... -never-met


The Republican party is starting to lean hard into parlaying recent news into portraying Democrats as pro-Iran traitors. At the same time, nary a peep from Republican leaders on the President promising war crimes and to usurp Constitutional authority.

Trump is a serious problem, but the Republican party is a more serious problem that will outlive him. I don't see our way out of this.
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Icarus wrote:The cost was war with Iran and now Bolton will say whatever Trump wants him to say.

So you expect Bolton will perjure himself for the momentary pleasure of a war-starting political assassination?
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What are going to be the actual consequences for perjury in the Senate at this point? Anything?

I still want to hear from Bolton et. al. And I especially want to hear from their paper trails. But I'm under no illusions that people with a reputation for shameless dishonesty will neccessarily tell the truth under oath.
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Re: The New War with Iran

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EAllusion wrote:Ah yes, totalitarian socialism - when a private citizen recommends a private company enforce its terms of service consistently among its private users.


About as fair as seperate but equal.

No sir it isn't blatant discrimination. You see right there on the sign, it clearly says seperate and equal! Therefore it can't be a euphamism for paritisan or racial discrimination! Checkmate!


Its just so odd. The sophistry you all use is so obviously erronous i can't believe that even you believe it.
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What’s the totalitarian socialism I desire?

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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iwanttotalk wrote:can't wait for you to experience the totalitarian socialism you so desire.

Ahhh, the classic right-wing "I'm a damned ignoramus" tell... accusing people who call Trump a moron of being socialist.

Try describing what socialism is, then you have a shot at people taking you seriously (well, probably not any more - you've already said too much to be taken seriously. But then again, it doesn't seem like you care if anyone takes you seriously, so what do you have to lose?)
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Re: The New War with Iran

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Anyway. Here we are. We’ve seen what Trump’s base is, and what kind of man they vote into office:

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- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Anyway. Here we are. We’ve seen what Trump’s base is, and what kind of man they vote into office:

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- Doc

This is a sincere question, how can a country with adult voters voting in a democratic election process, vote in Donald Trump to be President? You’d be better off with a potato as President.
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