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Moksha wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:32 am
doubtingthomas wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 am
the guy was talking about "accumulating wealth as the object of our existence. "
Excellent point, there is more to our existence than building the Spaceship Nauvoo.
It was Christofferson who said it.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 am
Philo Sofee wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:44 am
Did they really teach acquisition of wealth is a sin?!? Seriously??? OMFG. Maximum hypocrisy if they did, and right out their asses.
the guy was talking about "accumulating wealth as the object of our existence. "
I would suggest you go back and listen to Elder Christofferson’s talk again. And again. You took his comment completely out of context and misinterpreted it.

This interpretive framework of distortion and misrepresentation is unfortunately too common. And even more unfortunate there are either gullible or acquiescing people that will not take issue with those misrepresentations. Goes to show that critics cannot always be trusted to tell the truth.

Would you agree, Everybody Wang Chung?

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Re: GC Oct 2021

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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:42 pm
drumdude wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:17 pm
What wonderful new revelations have sprung forth from our “prophets, seers, and revelators”?

Just the usual. Several talks about the evils of religions hoarding and acquiring vast wealth and several talks about the importance of extending love, fellowship and tolerance toward marginalized people and our LGTBQ brothers and sisters.

Oh, wait……………
No need to wait. There have been a number of talks advocating love and understanding extended to all mankind. Does each interest group of one kind or another need to be directed identified?

I know your post is meant to be somewhat facetious, but nonetheless you are being caught in another lie.

Not something that is out of character for you, it seems.

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:18 pm
I would suggest you go back and listen to Elder Christofferson’s talk again. And again. You took his comment completely out of context and misinterpreted it.
It could be, I don't know, I got it from the sltrib
Contemporary society is “a replay of Book of Mormon history in which charismatic figures pursue unrighteous dominion over others, celebrate sexual license,” Christofferson said, “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence.” In their “warnings against sin,” Latter-day Saint leaders “are not motivated by a desire to condemn,” he said.

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/10 ... urday-lds/
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Gadianton wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:07 pm
drumdude wrote:
Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:17 pm
What wonderful new revelations have sprung forth from our “prophets, seers, and revelators”?
In my experience, families make an "occasion" out of conference in order to surgar-coat four hours of boredom that they don't get anything out of. For instance, getting everyone together and making a big, syrupy breakfast that conveniently runs into the first few talks of the session.
Families do get together during conference sessions to share love and companionship. Food is often a part of that. As a bonus we can sit down with each other and listen to conference and be inspired together. And yes, the younger at heart, including the kiddos, will play conference bingo using candy corn or marshmallows as a ‘sweet way’ of listening to the talks.

How in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.

If you get a chance, listen to Elder Uchtdorf’s talk from Sunday morning. I think we all might find application. Even if you are a disbeliever. 🙂

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:23 pm
There have been a number of talks advocating love and understanding extended to all mankind.
You know it's interesting, the rest of the world lets Jesus teach this message, since it's so wonderfully communicated in his own words in the New Testament.

For some reason Mormonism has a desire to repackage this message, claim it as their own inspired idea, and resell it to you during General Conference for the low price of 10% of your income forever.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pm
How in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.

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Um because Gadianton was an active, believing member at one time. Damn you are dense sometimes, MG. The talks are boring as crap because they are repetitive pablum. Good heavens! Get out and live a little. Go see the kinds of nourishment other spiritual teachers are providing. GC talks are among the worst, boring, dull, and insipid nonsense out there. I mean, sure, if you love them, more power to you, but don't think that the only reason others don't like this stuff is because they don't "believe," whatever that means. Rare is the occasion that a GC talk was actually worth the time spent listening to it.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:28 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:18 pm

I would suggest you go back and listen to Elder Christofferson’s talk again. And again. You took his comment completely out of context and misinterpreted it.
It could be, I don't know, I got it from the sltrib
Contemporary society is “a replay of Book of Mormon history in which charismatic figures pursue unrighteous dominion over others, celebrate sexual license,” Christofferson said, “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence.” In their “warnings against sin,” Latter-day Saint leaders “are not motivated by a desire to condemn,” he said.


https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/10 ... urday-lds/
Yep, those words are accurate. Apparently you got something out of his words that I didn’t. He, without doubt was referring to increasingly materialistic society that we live in and the seeking of wealth to the exclusion of spirituality and/or faith in a higher power.

At least that’s what I heard him say.

Rather than read reports in the SL Trib might I suggest you listen to his talk? That is, unless you are looking for possible misrepresentation of his words/meaning. That can often happen when trying to get the whole ‘truth’ from a newspaper article. The spirit of what is being said is often missing.

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Re: GC Oct 2021

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:47 pm
Yep, those words are accurate. Apparently you got something out of his words that I didn’t. He, without doubt was referring to increasingly materialistic society that we live in and the seeking of wealth to the exclusion of spirituality and/or faith in a higher power.
What the hell? Explain to me how exactly I quoted him out of context. I quoted him like this “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence", not like this "promote accumulating wealth."

It is clear he didn't say having wealth is a sin.

Jesus Christ!
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Re: GC Oct 2021

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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pm
How in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.

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MG
Um because Gadianton was an active, believing member at one time.
I know that.
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
Damn you are dense sometimes, MG.
This statement is made without any support.
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
The talks are boring as crap because they are repetitive pablum.
Then why are you (Gadianton) and I in disagreement? There is something qualitatively different in the way we view the presentations by church leaders. What accounts for that? Hint:the answer was given to Gadianton.
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
Good heavens! Get out and live a little.
Could you be a bit more definitive?
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
Go see the kinds of nourishment other spiritual teachers are providing.
Done enough of that to know that I don’t need or want to go to other restaurants. Although it’s interesting to sample their menus now and then just to see what’s out there. Again, could you give me a more direct suggestion of what I might do rather than be nourished by the “good word of God”?
Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pm
GC talks are among the worst, boring, dull, and insipid nonsense out there. I mean, sure, if you love them, more power to you, but don't think that the only reason others don't like this stuff is because they don't "believe," whatever that means. Rare is the occasion that a GC talk was actually worth the time spent listening to it.
I respect your right to express your opinion. Same with Gadianton. I simply disagree.

Last session, coming up. Down the street to a family member’s home.

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MG
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