It was Christofferson who said it.Moksha wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:32 amExcellent point, there is more to our existence than building the Spaceship Nauvoo.doubtingthomas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 amthe guy was talking about "accumulating wealth as the object of our existence. "
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"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. 
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I would suggest you go back and listen to Elder Christofferson’s talk again. And again. You took his comment completely out of context and misinterpreted it.doubtingthomas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:54 amthe guy was talking about "accumulating wealth as the object of our existence. "Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 2:44 amDid they really teach acquisition of wealth is a sin?!? Seriously??? OMFG. Maximum hypocrisy if they did, and right out their asses.
This interpretive framework of distortion and misrepresentation is unfortunately too common. And even more unfortunate there are either gullible or acquiescing people that will not take issue with those misrepresentations. Goes to show that critics cannot always be trusted to tell the truth.
Would you agree, Everybody Wang Chung?
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No need to wait. There have been a number of talks advocating love and understanding extended to all mankind. Does each interest group of one kind or another need to be directed identified?Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:42 pm
Just the usual. Several talks about the evils of religions hoarding and acquiring vast wealth and several talks about the importance of extending love, fellowship and tolerance toward marginalized people and our LGTBQ brothers and sisters.
Oh, wait……………
I know your post is meant to be somewhat facetious, but nonetheless you are being caught in another lie.
Not something that is out of character for you, it seems.
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It could be, I don't know, I got it from the sltrib
Contemporary society is “a replay of Book of Mormon history in which charismatic figures pursue unrighteous dominion over others, celebrate sexual license,” Christofferson said, “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence.” In their “warnings against sin,” Latter-day Saint leaders “are not motivated by a desire to condemn,” he said.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/10 ... urday-lds/
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. 
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Families do get together during conference sessions to share love and companionship. Food is often a part of that. As a bonus we can sit down with each other and listen to conference and be inspired together. And yes, the younger at heart, including the kiddos, will play conference bingo using candy corn or marshmallows as a ‘sweet way’ of listening to the talks.Gadianton wrote: ↑Sat Oct 02, 2021 8:07 pmIn my experience, families make an "occasion" out of conference in order to surgar-coat four hours of boredom that they don't get anything out of. For instance, getting everyone together and making a big, syrupy breakfast that conveniently runs into the first few talks of the session.
How in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.
If you get a chance, listen to Elder Uchtdorf’s talk from Sunday morning. I think we all might find application. Even if you are a disbeliever.
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You know it's interesting, the rest of the world lets Jesus teach this message, since it's so wonderfully communicated in his own words in the New Testament.
For some reason Mormonism has a desire to repackage this message, claim it as their own inspired idea, and resell it to you during General Conference for the low price of 10% of your income forever.
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Um because Gadianton was an active, believing member at one time. Damn you are dense sometimes, MG. The talks are boring as crap because they are repetitive pablum. Good heavens! Get out and live a little. Go see the kinds of nourishment other spiritual teachers are providing. GC talks are among the worst, boring, dull, and insipid nonsense out there. I mean, sure, if you love them, more power to you, but don't think that the only reason others don't like this stuff is because they don't "believe," whatever that means. Rare is the occasion that a GC talk was actually worth the time spent listening to it.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pmHow in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.
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“The past no longer belongs only to those who once lived it; the past belongs to those who claim it, and are willing to explore it, and to infuse it with meaning for those alive today.”—Margaret Atwood
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Yep, those words are accurate. Apparently you got something out of his words that I didn’t. He, without doubt was referring to increasingly materialistic society that we live in and the seeking of wealth to the exclusion of spirituality and/or faith in a higher power.doubtingthomas wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:28 pmIt could be, I don't know, I got it from the sltrib
Contemporary society is “a replay of Book of Mormon history in which charismatic figures pursue unrighteous dominion over others, celebrate sexual license,” Christofferson said, “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence.” In their “warnings against sin,” Latter-day Saint leaders “are not motivated by a desire to condemn,” he said.
https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2021/10 ... urday-lds/
At least that’s what I heard him say.
Rather than read reports in the SL Trib might I suggest you listen to his talk? That is, unless you are looking for possible misrepresentation of his words/meaning. That can often happen when trying to get the whole ‘truth’ from a newspaper article. The spirit of what is being said is often missing.
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What the hell? Explain to me how exactly I quoted him out of context. I quoted him like this “and promote accumulating wealth as the object of our existence", not like this "promote accumulating wealth."MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:47 pmYep, those words are accurate. Apparently you got something out of his words that I didn’t. He, without doubt was referring to increasingly materialistic society that we live in and the seeking of wealth to the exclusion of spirituality and/or faith in a higher power.
It is clear he didn't say having wealth is a sin.
Jesus Christ!
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"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus. 
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I know that.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pmUm because Gadianton was an active, believing member at one time.MG 2.0 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:38 pmHow in the world would you, of all people, be able to know what active, believing members of the church get out of the talks? You are a critic and apostate. I do understand why you might feel a sense of boredom. A disbeliever in the God that members of the CofJCofLDS worship would find little or no application of the content in the talks. It would be boring as a result. I have felt uplifted a number of times thus far during the sessions.
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This statement is made without any support.
Then why are you (Gadianton) and I in disagreement? There is something qualitatively different in the way we view the presentations by church leaders. What accounts for that? Hint:the answer was given to Gadianton.
Could you be a bit more definitive?
Done enough of that to know that I don’t need or want to go to other restaurants. Although it’s interesting to sample their menus now and then just to see what’s out there. Again, could you give me a more direct suggestion of what I might do rather than be nourished by the “good word of God”?
I respect your right to express your opinion. Same with Gadianton. I simply disagree.Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 7:42 pmGC talks are among the worst, boring, dull, and insipid nonsense out there. I mean, sure, if you love them, more power to you, but don't think that the only reason others don't like this stuff is because they don't "believe," whatever that means. Rare is the occasion that a GC talk was actually worth the time spent listening to it.
Last session, coming up. Down the street to a family member’s home.
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