Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin

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Re: Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin

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dastardly stem wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:29 pm
Yes. That scenario she and he laid out, from what I gathered, wherein she started working for him and early on she asked if she can start her own business, essentially, using company time and assets was funny. He should have said "no...of course not. I support your idea but you must do it on your own time". But apparently John was like "Yeah...That sounds great. Do it." Then apparently in his lawsuit he wants to pursue her for basically stealing company time and money? That is perhaps the saddest part of John's lawsuit to me. What reasonable person looks at this, even with the shallowest of glances, and thinks..."yeah...John's lawsuit makes a ton of sense."

A judge would look at this and realize quite quickly that John is doing nothing more than seeking revenge on an unhinged worker who also had the stupid idea to lay down a lawsuit on him...
good points. And so much is just opinion. for example, in the middle of disputing Kamp's statement of a pattern, there is this
119. The Open Stories Foundation anti-harassment and anti-retaliation statements were adopted in response
to the MeToo movement and as a genuine reflection of Open Stories Foundation’s values.
lol. No. that's bizarrely and unnecessarily untruthful. They were adopted in response to the Dehlin/Rosebud debacle. We all watched that history unfold.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:28 pm
dastardly stem wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:29 pm
Yes. That scenario she and he laid out, from what I gathered, wherein she started working for him and early on she asked if she can start her own business, essentially, using company time and assets was funny. He should have said "no...of course not. I support your idea but you must do it on your own time". But apparently John was like "Yeah...That sounds great. Do it." Then apparently in his lawsuit he wants to pursue her for basically stealing company time and money? That is perhaps the saddest part of John's lawsuit to me. What reasonable person looks at this, even with the shallowest of glances, and thinks..."yeah...John's lawsuit makes a ton of sense."

A judge would look at this and realize quite quickly that John is doing nothing more than seeking revenge on an unhinged worker who also had the stupid idea to lay down a lawsuit on him...
good points. And so much is just opinion. for example, in the middle of disputing Kamp's statement of a pattern, there is this
119. The Open Stories Foundation anti-harassment and anti-retaliation statements were adopted in response
to the MeToo movement and as a genuine reflection of Open Stories Foundation’s values.
lol. No. that's bizarrely and unnecessarily untruthful. They were adopted in response to the Dehlin/Rosebud debacle. We all watched that history unfold.
Yes. Lol. Thanks for calling that out. I'm still chuckling at this attempt to rewrite history. He's sound more and more like the LDS Church the longer he complains about it.
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dastardly stem wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:43 pm
Marcus wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 7:28 pm
good points. And so much is just opinion. for example, in the middle of disputing Kamp's statement of a pattern, there is this
lol. No. that's bizarrely and unnecessarily untruthful. They were adopted in response to the Dehlin/Rosebud debacle. We all watched that history unfold.
Yes. Lol. Thanks for calling that out. I'm still chuckling at this attempt to rewrite history. He's sound more and more like the LDS Church the longer he complains about it.
Hearing John say he felt unsafe nearly made me throw up. He’s a privileged rich white guy with a public platform that reaches millions.

He tries to look like he’s progressive and kind but he is trying too hard. It doesn’t take any effort when you actually are those things. John Larsen has done so much better at being honest and genuine than Dehlin has.
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drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:16 pm
Hearing John say he felt unsafe nearly made me throw up.
1000% Not to disregard a 6-6 unit like John's feelings but he needs to go work a job where he deals with the public sometime. Whole lot more crazy than Jenn Kamp out there.
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Bond wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:20 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:16 pm
Hearing John say he felt unsafe nearly made me throw up.
1000% Not to disregard a 6-6 unit like John's feelings but he needs to go work a job where he deals with the public sometime. Whole lot more crazy than Jenn Kamp out there.
It was definitely repellent, for sure. He’s playing around in this weird ‘progressive’ space and used wokey language to try to win sympathy from his perceived viewership knowing that once something is recorded it can go out to the public at any time. Lame, inauthentic, and a misstep. He only has himself to blame at this point; he needs to hire professionals to do the jobs they’re hired to do. Period. Bringing in strays off the street and giving them access to a business world they’ve never had access to is a recipe for disaster. One time, sure. Mistakes happen. Weird for a guy who worked in the “c-suite” corporate world, but ok. He’s launching a thing. Two times? Hrm. Something’s up. Three and four times? That’s a you problem, bro.

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Dr Exiled wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 5:03 pm
You have to realize that despite how the claims will play out, Dehlin needed to strike back once the tear machine or miss cries a lot (you decide which is the name you prefer) filed her frivolous lawsuit. The board meeting showed that she was someone that warranted termination. Additionally, contacting donors and making defamatory statements to them and making defamatory statements on social media warrants the defamation counterclaim. He also needs to protect his trademark because if you don't protect it by taking action, the law will presume that you acknowledge that there isn't anything to protect.
You make some excellent points. I certainly have no objections to your sitting on the Shades jury.
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pistolero wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:07 pm
Jenn Kamp on the other hand has already spent $20k without even filing and is now proceeding with the claim without legal assistance.
She needs to have JPatterson and three dudes in bullet-proof vests sitting next to her at the defense table.
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Patterson has been suspiciously quiet.
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I believe Kate Kelley is of counsel.
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Bond wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:20 pm
drumdude wrote:
Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:16 pm
Hearing John say he felt unsafe nearly made me throw up.
1000% Not to disregard a 6-6 unit like John's feelings but he needs to go work a job where he deals with the public sometime. Whole lot more crazy than Jenn Kamp out there.
I have felt unsafe around people exhibiting erratic and aberrant behavior. They do not seem to observe the Marquis of Queensbury's rules and may have a foreign substance hidden in their wrestling tights!!! Plus, I hate being manipulated by weeping.

I think this legal challenge is an action undertaken at the urging of the Open Stories Foundation board, and characterizing it as a personal vendetta is mistaken. Putting out defamatory videos with a similar-sounding name (Moormin Storries?) definitely needs a cease-and-desist order.
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