Jenn Kamp Files Lawsuit Against John Dehlin

[Moksha]

She has aspirations and was using Open Stories Foundation as the means to expedite her path towards her goals, and it wasn't a bad move, in the beginning. As her ego grew, it opened the door to clash with the ego of her boss. Her story of building community and trying to push Open Stories Foundation to the next frontier is shockingly similar to another former employee.

It's almost like a case of possession. Makes you want to call Father Damien Karras to cast out the Pazuzu/Rosebud demon.

[consiglieri]

It’s what I do.

You should pick your friends better or you are going to end up like jpatterson.

Okay. That was a freaking low blow.

[Marcus]

Is taunting a female plaintiff with counter-defamation lawsuits and capping it off with “Winter is Coming”, a slogan from a series with heavy motifs of sexual violence, a form of journalism in Ex-Mo communities?

Cause all of the above is what is transpiring in this thread...

Apparently in Penguin Communities as well, albeit a more religion-oriented type of violence.

She has aspirations and was using Open Stories Foundation as the means to expedite her path towards her goals, and it wasn't a bad move, in the beginning. As her ego grew, it opened the door to clash with the ego of her boss. Her story of building community and trying to push Open Stories Foundation to the next frontier is shockingly similar to another former employee.

It's almost like a case of possession. Makes you want to call Father Damien Karras to cast out the Padzu/Rosebud demon.

[Kishkumen]

John Dehlin, if you are reading this, hire back office staff that have little interest in becoming you, hire them because they are or will be good at running the behind the scenes show. Stay away from people passionate about the work you do.

Great advice.

Listen, I trust consiglieri knows what he is doing, and I think we know what JD’s weak points are. I am content to have this play out, and I am happy we don’t have Jenn Kamp here attempting to litigate this with us in the way Rosebud did. That was tiresome. And, I don’t see consiglieri becoming jpatterson. Not gonna happen.

[pistolero]

I will update my beliefs as more and more data becomes available.

Wildly off topic but…Bayesian updating is a really poor fit for epistemology.

Written as if it were some kind of indisputable fact!

Plenty of options stated as facts in this Jenn Kamp scenario too.

Would have preferred to see this (or not see this) play out behind closed doors. Now it's just tribal for many.

[jpatterson]

I said a lot of things I wouldn't say now in the rosebud thread. She was (in my mind) accusing Dehlin of actual rape. I believe she was even behind the website calling Dehlin a pedophile.

I think that's the place Consig was commenting from, I know it was for me. We didn't want to see someone who was innocent of the charges defamed like that without rebuttal.

But I would treat it much differently now. Looking back there was way too much dogpiling, and all of it because she fit the stereotype of a "lying/crazy/bitter scorned woman."

Where did she accuse him of actual rape?

Also, while I don't know who is behind the DearJohnDehlin website, I'm 99.9% sure it's not Rosebud. The person behind that website emailed me at one point, asking me to collaborate on a project I'm quite certain Rosebud wouldn't have been interested in.

[jpatterson]

Real talk: Why do you defend John so ardently? I don’t get devil’s advocate vibes or that you are just trying to keep things interesting, but that you earnestly going to bat for the dude. I don’t understand why you’d do this for someone who is so consistently absurd in their behavior.

Just follow the money.

[jpatterson]

He “annually” has to repost blog articles about being “smeared” that actually includes a photo of him as his wife. He routinely shares this kinda stuff on the very same account he tags family members in, like when he drops in on his daughter at her workplace to take a selfie.

You forgot that he has also lately begun appropriating language from Scientology critics Leah Remini and Mike Rinder, claiming any criticism against him is an effort by the church to "Fair Game" him.

[jpatterson]

However, Consig is also a journalist

This made me LOL.

Consig is most definitely not a journalist.

[jpatterson]

And, I don’t see consiglieri becoming jpatterson. Not gonna happen.

I'd have to agree with this. I have nothing to monetarily gain from defending Rosebud.