2025 Looking like 2020 - Wonder What They Have In Common

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canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:49 am
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Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:46 am
Not sure where I read this but I did read that they were screened in advance.
The folks in uniform who will be sitting in bleachers during the parade this weekend will be screened in advance for their loyalty to Trump’s actions and utterances. I believe that the folks in charge wanted to avoid any ‘rolling of eyes’ visible in the background when Cheetolini speaks.
Of course they will. He'll be looking for a bunch of young bucks who are all gung ho. But as a spouse of a retired former gung ho young buck let me just say what I really think of our current President. He's a malignant narcissistic vile son of a bitch* psychopath without conscience who is driven by his own delusion of grandiosity, greed, and lust for attention, power and control, who has no bottom to the point where he'll use and degrade our own young military troops as props in his political theater.

*No offense to his mother.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:58 am
… he'll use and degrade our own young military troops as props in his political theater.
I found the Military.com reference for you:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... rance.html

From the article:
Internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance. The troops ultimately selected to be behind Trump and visible to the cameras were almost exclusively male.

One unit-level message bluntly said "no fat soldiers."

"If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out," another note to troops said.
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canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 3:43 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:58 am
… he'll use and degrade our own young military troops as props in his political theater.
I found the Military.com reference for you:

https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 ... rance.html

From the article:
Internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance. The troops ultimately selected to be behind Trump and visible to the cameras were almost exclusively male.

One unit-level message bluntly said "no fat soldiers."

"If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out," another note to troops said.
Bastard. Not you, cp. Him. Some of those young troops would be giddy just being in the same frame as the President.
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canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:42 am
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Lol....then why is it called a sanctuary city, and why are laws passed to let illegal immigrants walk free from their breaking federal immigrations laws?
I’ll bite. I want to learn. What law was passed to ‘let illegal immigrants walk free from their breaking federal immigrations laws’? And how is such a law enforced at the State level?
Senate Bill 54 (SB 54).... the California Values Act

https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your- ... -act-sb-54

It is enforced, as an example, by not enforcing retainers on an illegal immigrant for federal crimes. The Illegal immigrant could have a nation wide federal hold issued, say for human trafficking, and if that person was arrested or given a citation say for shoplifting, it is against CA law for the local agencies to contact the the Feds.

It is important note that LA enforces this to the letter. As the example I gave, it is a criminal felony charge, not a civil charge, for an illegal immigrant that was deported, after due process, and they come back. They can serve up to 2 years in prison for this charge, and then be deported again.
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Let me say just one more thing about that screening and then I need to shut up about Mr. Sin Personified because he's toxic to me.

That screening directive ALONE ----> opt in/opt out due to political leanings<---- has the potential to cause division within the ranks of our military machine and make NO mistake about it. It IS a machine!

Responding to it or issuing it may be a violation of military regs but I can't spend time thinking about it right now. Commander in Chief, my ass.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:04 am
but I can't spend time thinking about it right now.
Frankly my dear, I don't give a Damn....

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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:00 am
canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:42 am
I’ll bite. I want to learn. What law was passed to ‘let illegal immigrants walk free from their breaking federal immigrations laws’? And how is such a law enforced at the State level?
Senate Bill 54 (SB 54).... the California Values Act

https://www.aclusocal.org/en/know-your- ... -act-sb-54

It is enforced, as an example, by not enforcing retainers on an illegal immigrant for federal crimes. The Illegal immigrant could have a nation wide federal hold issued, say for human trafficking, and if that person was arrested or given a citation say for shoplifting, it is against CA law for the local agencies to contact the the Feds.

It is important note that LA enforces this to the letter. As the example I gave, it is a criminal felony charge, not a civil charge, for an illegal immigrant that was deported, after due process, and they come back. They can serve up to 2 years in prison for this charge, and then be deported again.
There’s no ‘get out of jail free’ card here. It only states that certain State law enforcement entities will not enforce Federal law on behalf of Federal jurisdiction. Nothing prevents ICE from interacting with people being held for State enforcement.

If ICE walks in the door and interviews someone that the State is holding, then the State is not going to force that person to cooperate to the satisfaction of ICE. But if apprehended by ICE, this law does not allow release of that person against ICE’s federal charges. As such, the law does not do as you claim inasmuch as there’s not a provision ‘letting’ anyone walk free who is detained by Federal authorities … at least, that’s not apparent in the text you’re linking to.

Per the 10th Amendment of the US Constitution, immigration enforcement is the jurisdiction of the Federal government, and the State is not required to replace Federal actions in that regard. Is that not correct?

This makes sense from both a civil and a budgetary standpoint.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:04 am
Let me say just one more thing about that screening and then I need to shut up about Mr. Sin Personified because he's toxic to me.

That screening directive ALONE ----> opt in/opt out due to political leanings<---- has the potential to cause division within the ranks of our military machine and make NO mistake about it. It IS a machine!

Responding to it or issuing it may be a violation of military regs but I can't spend time thinking about it right now. Commander in Chief, my ass.

Here it is:

DODD 1344.10


https://dodsoco.ogc.osd.mil/Portals/102 ... ct_ppt.pdf

Alternative link:

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Docu ... 34410p.pdf
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Markk wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:37 am
Gunnar wrote:
Wed Jun 11, 2025 7:56 pm
Equine excrement!
Lol....then why is it called a sanctuary city, and why are laws passed to let illegal immigrants walk free from their breaking federal immigrations laws?

As an example, it is a felony if a person is deported, and then comes back illegally.....but sanctuary cites do not and will not contact ICE for federal charges....why, because they offer sanctuary.

Here is the president explaining it for you....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IrDrBs13oA
Sanctuary cities and communities don't only benefit undocumented immigrants. Here are some of the best arguments for sanctuary cities:
Democrats have long championed these policies as a way to create safe and welcoming environments for immigrants.

Jill Habig, Founder and President of Public Rights Project—a national nonprofit that works with state and local governments to enforce civil rights—is currently working with Portland to fight back against Trump’s legal and political fight with sanctuary cities. She says sanctuary cities have adopted these laws in order to create trust between immigrant communities and law enforcement.

“If immigrants fear that their local police are going to turn them over to ICE, then they may not report a crime that's affecting everyone in their neighborhood,” Habig says. “That’s really the principle that cities have been deploying for decades: to say, ‘We want to make sure everyone in the community feels safe and that they feel comfortable, that they can access city services without fear of deportation.’ That actually makes cities safer.”

In a 2017 study by the Center for American Progress—conducted during Trump’s first term—the center reported that there were, on average, 35.5 fewer crimes committed per 10,000 people in sanctuary counties compared to nonsanctuary counties. A 2020 Cambridge University study also found that when local law enforcement works closely with ICE, undocumented immigrants are less likely to report crimes, which “undermines public safety,” one of the researchers said to the Hill.
A January 2025 statement from the California Police Chiefs Association—which “represents all 334 municipal police chiefs in the State of California”—echoes this desire for cooperation between immigrant communities and law enforcement.

The association said that local law enforcement should not “shield dangerous individuals or restrict our agencies and officers from investigating and apprehending serious or violent offenders.” However, at the same time, they argue that sanctuary laws in place “to ensure the safeguarding of every undocumented person in need of assistance…must remain in place.”
Quotes taken from https://time.com/7222159/what-are-sanct ... ting-them/

I'm not arguing for blanket, unrestricted protection for undocumented immigrants, but emphasis should be against those who violate serious crimes other than merely being undocumented residents and less on those who are actually contributing to their local communities, holding down productive, essential jobs, paying taxes and supporting beloved family members who would be devastated by their deportation.

And certainly, no action should ever be taken against legal visitors and tourists to this country, such as cancelling their visas, merely because they exercised their constitutionally protected right to publicly express opinions that Trump or anyone in his administration didn't like! The right of free speech, like many other constitutionally established rights, applies to everyone within the jurisdiction of U.S. no matter what their citizenship status or political or religious beliefs.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:46 am
Not sure where I read this but I did read that they were screened in advance.
Yes, that’s right, and they should be no less ashamed of themselves. Every tyrant needs a claque.
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