The apologist’s evening prayer

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Re: The apologist’s evening prayer

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Makes sense that a prophet would see the usefulness of somebody especially skilled in calming the waters, as well as making friends and influencing people.

Some Church Authorities seem adept at projecting an air of arrogance, and some seem like true peacemakers.

Reading some of the poetry of CS Lewis makes it readily apparent why Mormons are drawn to him. Lewis has the Athenian touch while the Apologists are more like the Spartans.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:47 am
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 3:41 am
If the church is truly led by God’s prophet, seer and revelator, the Apostles and General Authorities, then why are there self-appointed mopologists?
In my mind, the fact that the Salt Lake City-based church has a public relations spokesman is a huge red flag. If it was really being led by Jesus Christ, shouldn't THE PROPHET be the public relations spokesman?
Should be, but he can't be trusted. He'll put his foot in the Lord's mouth. Need that polished text after numerous reviews and edits so that he doesn't quite say anything.
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Re: The apologist’s evening prayer

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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:42 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Jul 11, 2025 7:47 am
In my mind, the fact that the Salt Lake City-based church has a public relations spokesman is a huge red flag. If it was really being led by Jesus Christ, shouldn't THE PROPHET be the public relations spokesman?
Should be, but he can't be trusted. He'll put his foot in the Lord's mouth. Need that polished text after numerous reviews and edits so that he doesn't quite say anything.
You're obviously ignoring the fact that God is a bit tongue tied at the moment. I mean, nuthin is happenin here on earth that needs His intervention is there....
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Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:47 pm
sock puppet wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:42 pm
Should be, but he can't be trusted. He'll put his foot in the Lord's mouth. Need that polished text after numerous reviews and edits so that he doesn't quite say anything.
You're obviously ignoring the fact that God is a bit tongue tied at the moment. I mean, nuthin is happenin here on earth that needs His intervention is there....
Maybe Mormon God is tired, has Low T and needs some hormone therapy.
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Re: The apologist’s evening prayer

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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:55 pm
Philo Sofee wrote:
Mon Jul 14, 2025 11:47 pm
You're obviously ignoring the fact that God is a bit tongue tied at the moment. I mean, nuthin is happenin here on earth that needs His intervention is there....
Maybe Mormon God is tired, has Low T and needs some hormone therapy.
Maybe he’s on a long journey or using the bathroom?
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I can’t get enough of this guy’s posts:
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Professor Peterson “I actually think that the Book of Mormon is in a stronger position now, as regards its historicity, than at any prior time since its appearance in the late 1820s and its first publication in English in 1830.”

I agree with you about the evidence being much stronger now. NHM, chiasmus, limited geography theory, ocean currents for Jaredite barges, loan shifting tapirs, and Aztec machuatels, sleds, genetic bottlenecking and two Cumorah hills theory.

We know so much more now and the evidence just keeps piling up in favor of the Book of Mormon.
Taking DCP seriously is peak comedy :lol:
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Their current guffaws will soon be replaced by a dramatic monologue titled 'My Life Is a Series of Regrets Since Turning My Back on the Book of Mormon, Act I, Scene I.'"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's just a coincidence that my dog died, my back went out, I was shot, burned, run over, and buried alive after I turned my back on Joseph Smith and the restored gospel! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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drumdude wrote:
Wed Jul 16, 2025 3:10 am
Their current guffaws will soon be replaced by a dramatic monologue titled 'My Life Is a Series of Regrets Since Turning My Back on the Book of Mormon, Act I, Scene I.'"
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's just a coincidence that my dog died, my back went out, I was shot, burned, run over, and buried alive after I turned my back on Joseph Smith and the restored gospel! :lol: :lol: :lol:
I can’t decide if this guy is just an uber chapel Mormon or a hilariously subversive troll.
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Axel, those are some very thoughtful and interesting questions you pose. Thank you for taking our faith seriously and respectfully. Some critics feel that apologists have twisted, distorted and reinterpreted the plain meaning of the Book of Mormon beyond recognition in order to make it fit with one of the current models. But, these critics are plainly wrong. I think having a number of different and various models show that LDS are not afraid to embrace science and follow where the evidence leads. For some it leads to the limited geography model, for others it leads to the two cumorah hill theory, and to others a heartland model or even a Malay model or Baha Mexico model.. One thing is clear, these events did happen. Either that or Joseph Smith was the world’s greatest guesser.
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He repeats back what DCP says in such a delightfully devious way to highlight how ridiculous the arguments are.

You really just have to hear them out loud without any of the apologetic polish to notice it.

Underneath all that polish, DCP is still left with a bunch of turds.

Side note: it’s a little strange that Dan is now implying that he’s worried about the safety of his extended family members, so much so as to hide their gender… I, for one, think he’s probably a great loving grandfather. I am also happy for him that he enjoys fine dining in his retirement years.

He seems to have a lot of trepidation about some odd topics these days that have nothing to do with substantive discussion of LDS apologetics.
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