Big 15 silent on 'Alligator Alcatraz'

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Re: Big 15 silent on 'Alligator Alcatraz'

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MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 3:58 am
I'm not opposed to criminals being deported. I don't know whether or not those in deportation centers after initial screening/processing are 'farm workers' (catch all for illegal migrants without a criminal record) or those that most of us would want off the streets or in our own neighborhoods. Farm workers, and the like, should be treated more humanely...whatever that might look like.

But not to prisons outside of the United States. They should either self deport or moved through the asylum process expeditiously. In the meantime rather than 'catch and release' they should to be held in confinement. After all, they have broken US immigration law. Time and expenditure has already been spent to find them and bring them into custody.

I have no reason to think that church leaders would speak out in this specific case. They have already spoken in regards to how these folks should be treated if they end up in our wards and neighborhoods.
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Re: Big 15 silent on 'Alligator Alcatraz'

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Moksha wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:21 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:20 pm
... or those that most of us would want off the streets or in our own neighborhoods...
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The ones with an obvious Lamanite background.
Not at all. The ones with criminal records. The rapists. Pedophiles. Aggravated felonies. Other Felonies. Misdemeanors related to moral terpirtude.

Repeated offenses. Those crossing the border illegally. People with final orders of removal.

They can be from many different nations and ancestral backgrounds.

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MG wrote:Those crossing the border illegally
Such as any Mormons moving into Missouri between 1838 and 1976?
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:59 am
Not at all. The ones with criminal records. The rapists. Pedophiles. Aggravated felonies. Other Felonies. Misdemeanors related to moral terpirtude.

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You just described Donald Trump.
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Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:42 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:59 am
Not at all. The ones with criminal records. The rapists. Pedophiles. Aggravated felonies. Other Felonies. Misdemeanors related to moral terpirtude.

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You just described Donald Trump.
And Joseph Smith.
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Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:46 am
Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:42 am
You just described Donald Trump.
And Joseph Smith.
Well...that went nowhere.

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malkie wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:35 pm
Isn't it a bit of a problem that, without due process, you can't distinguish between undocumented immigrants with no criminal record, and criminals. Heck (more colourful language suppressed), ICE doesn't even seem to be able to distinguish either of these categories from legal residents (e.g., green card holders, or other protected groups) and citizens?

What if, as has happened to others, MG-with-a-suntan were somehow swept up in a raid, denied legal counsel, moved from facility to facility, never give the opportunity to prove his citizenship, and then shipped off to Sudan?
Oh, snap. There's the rub. Unless all people are afforded due process, then no one is protected from the jackboots.
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Dr. Sunstoned wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:42 am
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 2:59 am
Not at all. The ones with criminal records. The rapists. Pedophiles. Aggravated felonies. Other Felonies. Misdemeanors related to moral terpirtude.

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You just described Donald Trump.
One thing about it, MG 2.0 just keeps lobbing home-run pitches across the plate.
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MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:45 pm
Everybody Wang Chung wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:46 am

And Joseph Smith.
Well...that went nowhere.

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It went right to the heart of the matter. It was a bull's eye!!!
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sock puppet wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 5:22 pm
MG 2.0 wrote:
Mon Jul 21, 2025 4:45 pm


Well...that went nowhere.

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It went right to the heart of the matter. It was a bull's eye!!!
My comments had to do with the OP and topic at hand. Those comments were mostly avoided and the conversation veered off. That's what I'm referring to.

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