Yes. There is zero credible objective evidence that supports the Book of Mormon as a work of non fiction. There is a lot of objective evidence that supports the Book of Mormon as a work of fiction.
Excellent takedown of Mopologist DNA misinformation
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Premise 1. Eyewitness testimony is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
Premise 2. The best evidence for the Book of Mormon is eyewitness testimony.
Conclusion. Therefore, the best evidence for the Book of Mormon is notoriously unreliable.
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I think that to a large part it is conjecture not based on actual fact. As I said, even in regard to the example you're referring to we don't know the full story except to know that this person was allowed to finish his time/contract with BYU.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:56 pmThe fact remains (and the thing you asked about) that BYU is doing those things you suggested were just internet make-believe.
It's back to the 'mountain out of a molehill' that I refer to quite often.
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Chiasmus. Multiple authors. Nahom and Old-World geographical coordinates and connections. Contextual accuracy for the most part. And a lot of the Brant Gardner stuff. All? No. Much? Many think so. You're just one guy on a message board. I would encourage seekers to do their own research and reading. And also, be open to the possibility to the whisperings of the Spirit. Don't push God out of the picture. When that happens all you have left is the gray matter between your ears.I Have Questions wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:58 pmYes. There is zero credible objective evidence that supports the Book of Mormon as a work of non fiction. There is a lot of objective evidence that supports the Book of Mormon as a work of fiction.
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LOL! MG, please tell me you are joking.
LOL! Brant Gardner stuff?MG" wrote:And a lot of the Brant Gardner stuff. All? No. Much? Many think so.
LOL! MG, I'm glad you aren't just one guy on a message board.MG wrote:You're just one guy on a message board.
LOL! Elder Oaks and other leaders have taught time and time again, that research is not the answer.MG wrote:I would encourage seekers to do their own research and reading.
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Help me out here since he rarely responds to me. Is this some kind of joke? These are some of the worst apologetics there are.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:23 pmLOL! MG, please tell me you are joking.
LOL! Brant Gardner stuff?MG" wrote:And a lot of the Brant Gardner stuff. All? No. Much? Many think so.
LOL! MG, I'm glad you aren't just one guy on a message board.MG wrote:You're just one guy on a message board.
LOL! Elder Oaks and other leaders have taught time and time again, that research is not the answer.MG wrote:I would encourage seekers to do their own research and reading.
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That is a broadly dismissive reply. You did not engage. What are your specific critiques?Rivendale wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:58 pmHelp me out here since he rarely responds to me. Is this some kind of joke? These are some of the worst apologetics there are.Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Fri Aug 08, 2025 11:23 pmLOL! MG, please tell me you are joking.
LOL! Brant Gardner stuff?
LOL! MG, I'm glad you aren't just one guy on a message board.
LOL! Elder Oaks and other leaders have taught time and time again, that research is not the answer.
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One does not specifically critique a child's drawing. Consider my response a gesture of politeness and a longer response would have belabored the obvious.
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That isn't the focus of this thread and I am not going to educate you on each and everyone. They are all ridiculous on the face of it with Nahom near the top but that is because I found this undergraduate (former active believing member who lives in Yemen) pummeling of Nahom hilarious. If you have the stomach for it, here is the link. If not, ignore it.
https://old.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... mon_nahom/
https://old.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... mon_nahom/
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TTOCEverybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:08 amOne does not specifically critique a child's drawing. Consider my response a gesture of politeness and a longer response would have belabored the obvious.
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I've seen that reddit exchange before.Rivendale wrote: ↑Sat Aug 09, 2025 1:17 amThat isn't the focus of this thread and I am not going to educate you on each and everyone. They are all ridiculous on the face of it with Nahom near the top but that is because I found this undergraduate (former active believing member who lives in Yemen) pummeling of Nahom hilarious. If you have the stomach for it, here is the link. If not, ignore it.
https://old.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comme ... mon_nahom/
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