Where we are

[Doctor Steuss]

Yeah, this leftist lunatic death cult is getting pretty wild. Next thing you know, instead of advocating for a single person to be murdered, they'll be openly advocating that hundreds of thousands of Americans be murdered.

[ceeboo]

That you should probably slow down long enough to share some helpful information, if you are trying to make a point.

Interesting.

You think I was trying to make a point about who was shot? And that I need to wait to confirm this before posting?

When you see a story about a sniper sending bullets at an ICE facility, do you see this as shots at members of a gestapo, or do you see this as shots at members in law enforcement?

I think the answer to that question provides everything anyone needs to know (I do not suggest how you would answer that question, I do suggest that the answer, whatever it is, is all anyone needs to know)

[canpakes]

I will go on the record and say the sniper’s shots were not amazing.

Oh, what a hilarious quip in response to murder! You're a funny guy! Maybe you and Gutfeld could write a routine on this.

Binger is still embarrassed that he fell for an intentionally-created word trap and wasted 20 posts of AI text digging himself into a hole.

[Some Schmo]

Just saw this breaking news: A sniper in Dallas shooting at an ICE facility. Three people hit.


Where we are.

Yeah... guns are way too easy to get. Too many shootings. It's insane that we accept living with this. It's almost like we cherish guns more than life.

[Whiskey]

That you should probably slow down long enough to share some helpful information, if you are trying to make a point.

Interesting.

You think I was trying to make a point about who was shot? And that I need to wait to confirm this before posting?

When you see a story about a sniper sending bullets at an ICE facility, do you see this as shots at members of a gestapo, or do you see this as shots at members in law enforcement?

I think the answer to that question provides everything anyone needs to know (I do not suggest how you would answer that question, I do suggest that the answer, whatever it is, is all anyone needs to know)

Brace yourself for the newest and latest and greatest definition of “law”, “enforcement” and “gestapo” which will show, unequivocally, that you don't speak english and you don’t have the progressive liberal democrat urim and thummim thesauras app for seeing words that aren't there and not seeing words that are there.

Shooting people is bad. Real bad. Killing people is bad. Real bad. Shooting at cops is bad. Very bad. No amount of whatabout and sides-ing will satisfy the lunatic fringe. (Gadiantun, what do we know about the Lunatic Fringe?).

[ceeboo]

Shooting people is bad. Real bad. Killing people is bad. Real bad. Shooting at cops is bad. Very bad. No amount of whatabout and sides-ing will satisfy the lunatic fringe. (Gadiantun, what do we know about the Lunatic Fringe?).

Yeah, I agree that it is really bad.

Unfortunately (and really shocking to me) many of my fellow American citizens don't seem to agree.

(Posting the entire article for full context)

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Polls Show Rising Number of Americans Justify Political Violence
By Jonathan Draeger
Published On: 09/12/2025Last updated 09/11/2025, 07:37 PM EDT

AP News
On Wednesday, Turning Point USA president Charlie Kirk was assassinated on the grounds of Utah Valley University. The act weighed heavily on the hearts of many Americans who had listened to and benefited from his presence and leadership, and tributes posted by prominent friends, including Vice President JD Vance and political commentator Michael Knowles, captured the great value he brought to the world. Even prominent Democratic politicians who vehemently disagreed with his politics, such as Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom, condemned the violence and said all forms of political violence must be rejected.

But the murder of a father of two young children was not universally condemned. Anonymous as well as named accounts owned by far-left users authored posts expressing glee in the death of Kirk, calling him a fascist and justifying his killing. Unfortunately, acceptance of political violence is not limited to an immeasurably small group of dregs on the Internet; polling shows a notable minority of Americans view it as acceptable.

In April, the Network Contagion Research Institute, along with Rutgers University, found that 55% of self-identified left-of-center respondents said that it was at least somewhat justified to murder President Trump. Forty-eight percent said the same of Elon Musk, and 40% of respondents, including 59.6% of left-of-center respondents, said it was at least somewhat acceptable to destroy a Tesla dealership in protest.

The question was asked on a scale of 1-7 as to how justified these different acts were, with 1 being not at all justified and 7 being completely justified. Nearly 15% of left-of-center respondents said that the murder of Donald Trump was a 7 – completely justified – and 10.7% said the same of Musk.

In a November 2017 YouGov poll, when asked if violence was justified to advance political goals, only 8% of Democrats and Republicans said it was “at least a little bit justified.” Although the pollster stopped asking the question in the same way in 2020, the percentage of people who said it was at least “a little” justified had already risen to 36% among Republican respondents and 33% among Democratic respondents.

In the latest poll by YouGov taken after Kirk was murdered, 11% said violence can sometimes be justified to achieve political goals, while 72% said violence is never justified. (Another 5% said they would prefer not to say whether they think violence is sometimes justifiable to achieve political goals.)

Saying that violence can be justified was more prominent among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, with 14% of Democrats, 13% of independents, and only 6% of Republicans holding that opinion, according to the Sept. 10 poll. On the other end of the scale, 81% of Republicans said violence is never justified, compared with 72% of Democrats and 65% of independents.

While all three sets of polls make it clear that it is a minority of Americans who are in support of political violence, that minority is significant. Unfortunately, this 10%-40% of people who think violence can be justified to obtain political goals can individually cause severe suffering and chaos.

Perhaps the gruesome sight of increased political violence, as well as condemnation from politicians on both sides of the aisle, can help reverse the polarization that led to these assassinations and attempts. If not, more violence like what America has seen in Butler, Pennsylvania, New York City, Minnesota – and now Utah – is surely on the horizon.

[Doctor Steuss]

[...]
Saying that violence can be justified was more prominent among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, with 14% of Democrats, 13% of independents, and only 6% of Republicans holding that opinion, according to the Sept. 10 poll. On the other end of the scale, 81% of Republicans said violence is never justified, compared with 72% of Democrats and 65% of independents.
[...]

I'm trying to look at the bright side that the majority of Americans still think it's never justified, but this is a troubling shift from previous polls.

That Independents have seemingly grown so jaded with the duopoly as to have such a shifting view regarding violence is particularly disheartening.

[ceeboo]

[...]
Saying that violence can be justified was more prominent among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, with 14% of Democrats, 13% of independents, and only 6% of Republicans holding that opinion, according to the Sept. 10 poll. On the other end of the scale, 81% of Republicans said violence is never justified, compared with 72% of Democrats and 65% of independents.
[...]

I'm trying to look at the bright side that the majority of Americans still think it's never justified, but this is a troubling shift from previous polls.

A troubling shift indeed. Very troubling in my opinion.

[Whiskey]

[...]
Saying that violence can be justified was more prominent among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, with 14% of Democrats, 13% of independents, and only 6% of Republicans holding that opinion, according to the Sept. 10 poll. On the other end of the scale, 81% of Republicans said violence is never justified, compared with 72% of Democrats and 65% of independents.
[...]

I'm trying to look at the bright side that the majority of Americans still think it's never justified, but this is a troubling shift from previous polls.

That Independents have seemingly grown so jaded with the duopoly as to have such a shifting view regarding violence is particularly disheartening.

Most, according to these polls, think it is never justified.

I think most Americans would say it is predictable. Not justified, but some crazy FITH sucker is gonna believe they are victims of ________ and just do something stupid.

The rhetoric to the FITH lunatic fringe is not coming from only the FITH fringe. Hell, even a professor or a late night celebrity wanker may tell the weirdos again that they are under siege, again.

[canpakes]

[...]
Saying that violence can be justified was more prominent among Democrats and independents than among Republicans, with 14% of Democrats, 13% of independents, and only 6% of Republicans holding that opinion, according to the Sept. 10 poll. On the other end of the scale, 81% of Republicans said violence is never justified, compared with 72% of Democrats and 65% of independents.
[...]

I'm trying to look at the bright side that the majority of Americans still think it's never justified, but this is a troubling shift from previous polls.

That Independents have seemingly grown so jaded with the duopoly as to have such a shifting view regarding violence is particularly disheartening.

What could help is if our President wasn’t leading the charge to inject more violent rhetoric into the public sphere.