Detransitioners vs the Progressive Machine: A Legal and Cultural Time Bomb

[Doctor Steuss]

As an aside, for anyone interested, the Science Vs podcast has done several episodes on being transgender, and childhood gender dysphoria care. If you are unfamiliar with the podcast, they always produce a transcript to accompany the episodes, that contains all cited studies, research, and publications so that you can cross-reference or read more. They will also include corrections in the transcript to factual errors that they, or their guests, made during the episode that were caught after the fact during final fact-checking and editing.

[Hound of Heaven]

Thank you.

There is a gay YouTuber I watch sometimes who is a trans advocate and who I assume qualifies as an actual progressive rather than a disaffected conservative or a libertarian such as myself and the other normal people on this forum who don't want to live in a theophany ran by atheist crypto and AI billionaires along with their dirty politicians and YouTube ministers. He's pretty damn smart and entertaining on all issues -- on the recent SC stuff that came out, his comment was if you're gay or trans in this country right now, you're f'd. His only advice is to keep your mouth shut until you're 18 and then??

If that's his advice as an actual progressive, then for those of us who aren't progressives and who take the bait arguing against the illogical positions of provocateurs and extremists, all we're doing is making such people targets, which is bad for them, and a distraction for more important issues, which, among other things, would need to be sorted out first as you point out. This is the same observation I made about immigrants not long ago. I really feel that the culture war right-wingers started over immigration was enabled by certain left-wingers. I think there may have been ways to support immigrants without further making them targets in the culture war.

Transgender folks are already targets. Authoritarian mass movements require scapegoats. Guys like Chris Rico created a moral panic about trans folks, claiming that they are pedos and groomers. The newest anti trans propaganda is that they are overrepresented in mass shooters. That’s the lie that Charlie Kirk was in the middle of pushing when he was murdered. Congresscritters have already discussed taking away their seconds amendment rights. A couple have spoken out in favor of involuntary detention in insane asylums.

The official position of the federal government is that trans people don’t exist. In fact, it has identified “extreme gender ideology” (code for being trans or advocating for the rights of trans people) as terrorism. State legislatures are contemplating bills that would force all trans folks to medically detransition by making it illegal to prescribe hormones for them.

Staying silent when an authoritarian movement targets a group for scapegoating never ends well for that group.

Alright, folks, we’re on the third page of this thread and not a peep from our favorite Marxist progressives like Can’tpakes, Gunnar the Dumber, Captain Progressive (a.k.a. Res Ipsa), or GadiSCAMton on the over 800 kids who’ve had body parts removed between 2019 to 2021. It’s like they agree with progressive doctors mutilating children because they’ve bought into a cult ideology that says chopping off body parts is totally cool if it helps with some mental anguish from gender dysphoria.

To the Marxist progressives, Can'tpakes, Captain Progressive, Gunnar the Dumber, GadiSCAMton, in your opinion, if a 14 year old boy suffers from Body Integrity Disorder and he wants a surgeon to remove both his legs while he's 14, should a doctor perform that surgery or should that 14 year old boy wait to see if he outgrow the feeling? 

Just a friendly reminder that none of the Marxist progressives like Can'tpakes, Captain Progressive, GadiSCAMton, or Gunnar the Dumber are actually taking the time to read my post. What they're actually doing is reading my post, then they're waiting for one of their friends like whiskey or Kishkumen to post so they can pretend like they're actually not responding to my post. It's a classic move performed by weak minded males that are scared of confrontation, especially male cult members that despise facts and common sense.

[Whiskey]

Interestingly, the Declaration does not deal with the case of minors.

As a parent myself, I sympathise with the position you indicate. On the other hand, I am all for parent's rights to coerce their children against their will having some limits - one ought not to be able to force one's children into marriage, or (in effect) send them to prison camps for 'problem children' that they are not allowed to leave, and so on. Children's rights may be more limited than adults, but that does not mean they should have no rights at all other than the right to obey their parents' notion of what is best for them.

Yes, my position is that minors' rights should have limits, not cease to exist.

This ^^^^^^^!!!!

They have rights. And they are minors.

All this other hokey victim target BS relies largely on Kish’s point - a valid one - being ignored or trivialized.

In the meantime we have social contagion promoters and doctors playing pokemon go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones. “Look, i found some. Cut 'em off. Here is proof. Now looking for clues to get another one.”

[canpakes]

This ^^^^^^^!!!!

They have rights. And they are minors.

All this other hokey victim target BS relies largely on Kish’s point - a valid one - being ignored or trivialized.

In the meantime we have social contagion promoters and doctors playing pokemon go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones. “Look, i found some. Cut 'em off. Here is proof. Now looking for clues to get another one.”

The social contagion promoters are typically the ones claiming that doctors are playing Pokémon Go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones.

[Hound of Heaven]

This ^^^^^^^!!!!

They have rights. And they are minors.

All this other hokey victim target BS relies largely on Kish’s point - a valid one - being ignored or trivialized.

In the meantime we have social contagion promoters and doctors playing pokemon go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones. “Look, i found some. Cut 'em off. Here is proof. Now looking for clues to get another one.”

The social contagion promoters are typically the ones claiming that doctors are playing Pokémon Go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones.

https://youtu.be/24tSBRA6I4k?si=QNKpIWrP7YdJxA8M


This is Clementine Breen, a 20-year-old woman who detransitioned after experiencing rapid medical intervention as a child. Clementine was a patient of Doctor Joanna Kennedy, a leading advocate for pediatric gender medicine. Starting at the age of twelve, she was administered puberty blockers, prescribed testosterone, and underwent a double mastectomy by the age of fourteen. In the video she recounts her experience, illuminating the profound impact. Clementine discusses the consequences of fast track gender affirming care following her surgery. She faced significant challenges with her mental health. Despite her worsening mental status, clinicians continued to focus solely on her transition ev3n though she was experiencing disassociation, self-harm, and suicide attempts. The discussion in the video reveals significant shortcomings in the gender care model progressives are mutilating our children with, particularly regarding the absence of psychological assessments for at-risk youth.

Progressives don't want people like Clementine to share their experience because it goes against the cult ideology of Marxist progressivism. In Marxist progressivism, the ideology is more important than the people that adhere to its fundamental beliefs. Just ask Can'tpakes, he's a true believer!

[Whiskey]

This ^^^^^^^!!!!

They have rights. And they are minors.

All this other hokey victim target BS relies largely on Kish’s point - a valid one - being ignored or trivialized.

In the meantime we have social contagion promoters and doctors playing pokemon go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones. “Look, i found some. Cut 'em off. Here is proof. Now looking for clues to get another one.”

The social contagion promoters are typically the ones claiming that doctors are playing Pokémon Go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones.

Obviously you have no damned clue what you are damned talking about. Just more trolling child games from panny.

Thanks for playing, panny. Get your trophy at the door. Thanks.

[canpakes]

The social contagion promoters are typically the ones claiming that doctors are playing Pokémon Go with childrens’ nuts, junk and hormones.

Obviously you have no damned clue what you are damned talking about. Just more trolling child games from panny.

Thanks for playing, panny. Get your trophy at the door. Thanks.

You’re free to present cases of doctors chopping off body parts willy-nilly and without consultation with patients, parents and possibly other care providers.

[canpakes]

Progressives don't want people like Clementine to share their experience because it goes against the cult ideology of Marxist progressivism. In Marxist progressivism, the ideology is more important than the people that adhere to its fundamental beliefs. Just ask Can'tpakes, he's a true believer!

Please point to the document that outlines Marxist progressive policy as regards transitioning. Are you claiming that the doctor involved was a Marxist progressive? Or are you just playing hysterical social contagion promoter ..?

[huckelberry]

I checked my Marxist progressive hand book. It was clear med providers pushing underage folks to change sex should be sent to a cold place east of the Urals.

[Whiskey]

I checked my Marxist progressive hand book. It was clear med providers pushing underage folks to change sex should be sent to a cold place east of the Urals.

Nice.