Black Chicagoans TURN on Democrats - Ride with Trump!!

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Re: Black Chicagoans TURN on Democrats - Ride with Trump!!

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Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:02 pm
Let’s clarify a few things, Shades, first and foremost, Trump is undoubtedly sending troops and federal agents into Democrat strongholds not out of sympathy for black Democrat voters, but because he recognizes that if he can demonstrate to black Americans how Democrats have nearly compelled them to live in fear for so long, he may persuade them that there is a better way to live, and that way is to vote Republican.
Interesting. You believe that Massah Trump is going to be seen by Black Americans as their Great White Savior, after they were “compelled to live in fear” by mysterious systemic injustices.
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Marcus wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:36 am
Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 7:10 am
Thank you for that. You're a real ray of sunshine.
So that's what you want from me, a stats professor? Just sunshine blown up your ass, when you accept stats without considering the source? Why am I not surprised. Okay sure. . . There you go. Sunshine instead of knowledge.
No need to blow sunshine, it's just that a little common courtesy goes a long way. Specifically, the "you are so naïve" comment was uncalled for. You know, sort of like how you probably would've refrained from saying that to someone at a party.
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Question, Shades, when you were a Mormon, did you ever view Satan as someone who was trying to help you or your family members?
Absolutely not.
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:02 pm
Let’s clarify a few things, Shades, first and foremost, Trump is undoubtedly sending troops and federal agents into Democrat strongholds not out of sympathy for black Democrat voters, but because he recognizes that if he can demonstrate to black Americans how Democrats have nearly compelled them to live in fear for so long, he may persuade them that there is a better way to live, and that way is to vote Republican.
Dang it, I was afraid of this being some sort of political ploy rather than concern for the welfare of the citizenry.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:16 pm

No need to blow sunshine, it's just that a little common courtesy goes a long way. Specifically, the "you are so naïve" comment was uncalled for. You know, sort of like how you probably would've refrained from saying that to someone at a party...
You have GOT to be kidding me. This is your party and you allow vile insults and rude comments to be posted daily here. Not a single thing that the Atlanticmike/binger iterations post would qualify as party talk, let alone common courtesy, and the remarks you've made toward Jersey Girl lately would get you uninvited from any party. But you're going to comment on my post, in this thread??? Why single me out? Why expect party-level politeness from me? Do you say things like this to Hound? Or whisker?

To quote the 'uncalled for,' non-party, non-courteous insult you unkindly gave Jersey Girl on her serious health thread, Shades, "Snowflake much?".

Also, please fix your quote attributions. By only attributing mine to me but leaving the others unattributed, you make it look like I said those idiotic things. I didn't. You may think it's obvious, but please. Follow the spirit of your own rules, dear board founder and ultimate ruler of this potty-mouthed party.

ETA: I see a mod has added the correct attributions. Thank you, mod, I appreciate that.
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Marcus wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:34 pm
You have GOT to be kidding me. This is your party and you allow vile insults and rude comments to be posted daily here. Not a single thing that the Atlanticmike/binger iterations post would qualify as party talk, let alone common courtesy, and the remarks you've made toward Jersey Girl lately would get you uninvited from any party. But you're going to comment on my post, in this thread??? Why single me out?
Because you were addressing me.
Why expect party-level politeness from me?
Because I know you can do better.
Do you say things like this to Hound? Or whisker?
If/when they direct such comments to me, I will.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:20 am
Hound of Heaven wrote:
Tue Nov 11, 2025 4:18 pm
The video presents statistics indicating that overall crime in Chicago has significantly decreased, with robbery, a key concern, dropping by 45%.
The graphic actually says 41%, but that's okay. :-)

Although I'm no fan of Donald Trump, and I was very concerned about the violation of the posse comitatus law when the National Guard was first deployed, I must say that this huge reduction of crime is VERY satisfying. I haven't heard any reports of any civilians being roughed up by National Guard troops, so it appears that their mere presence as extra eyes and ears alone has been enough to reduce crime by a very significant amount.

Any time law-abiding citizens (regardless of skin color) can go about their lives without fear of being victimized, ESPECIALLY if they're not used to being able to do so, makes me damn near EUPHORIC. This is AWESOME!!
Huh. Who knew a libertarian would default to fascism so easily? Source on those stats?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:32 pm
Huh. Who knew libertarian would default to fascism so easily?
Fascism? The troops aren't abducting people at night or demanding to see their papers. Nor are they shutting down peaceful assemblies. Nor are they enforcing curfews.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 5:25 pm
Marcus wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:34 pm
You have GOT to be kidding me. This is your party and you allow vile insults and rude comments to be posted daily here. Not a single thing that the Atlanticmike/binger iterations post would qualify as party talk, let alone common courtesy, and the remarks you've made toward Jersey Girl lately would get you uninvited from any party. But you're going to comment on my post, in this thread??? Why single me out?
Because you were addressing me.
Why expect party-level politeness from me?
Because I know you can do better.
Do you say things like this to Hound? Or whisker?
If/when they direct such comments to me, I will.
Lol. Your obtuse nonanswers are excellent examples of that Wasatch Front passive-aggressiveness.

You left off a key part of my post:
Marcus wrote:
Wed Nov 12, 2025 6:34 pm
...To quote the 'uncalled for,' non-party, non-courteous insult you unkindly gave Jersey Girl on her serious health thread, Shades, "Snowflake much?"...
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:15 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:32 pm
Huh. Who knew libertarian would default to fascism so easily?
Fascism? The troops aren't abducting people at night or demanding to see their papers. Nor are they shutting down peaceful assemblies. Nor are they enforcing curfews.
No that’s ICE’s job. They’re just the military patrolling a city in the United States like an occupying force in direct violation of 150ish years of legal precedence, but if 41% less people reported robbery in the last two months, the results speak for themselves. There’s no way this could set a precedent for something dramatically worse in the future.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 2:15 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 13, 2025 9:32 pm
Huh. Who knew libertarian would default to fascism so easily?
Fascism? The troops aren't abducting people at night or demanding to see their papers. Nor are they shutting down peaceful assemblies. Nor are they enforcing curfews.
ICE and CPB, with help from friendly local authority, are asking to see papers. In some cases, they’re carting folks off without even giving people the chance to produce them. From Boston:
New details are coming to light after nine people employed at a Boston car wash were detained by United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents on Nov. 4, sparking backlash.

Pomerleau says many of the detained workers, five women and four men, hold legal status and valid work permits that they were never given a chance to produce.

"They were grabbed and thrown in a van without any opportunity to explain who they are, where they're from," Pomerleau said.

https://www.wcvb.com/article/bu-student ... s/69429903
ICE and local authorities have been aggressive with protests and have worked to either break many up, or instigate a conflict in order to justify attacking. From Colorado:
As the sun rose over the mesas surrounding Durango and drove away the chill of night, state and local police officers arrived, along with federal officials tasked with breaking up the protest so that ICE could move the children and their father to a detention center elsewhere. That’s when things got violent. Friends began texting me videos, and more streamed in on social media. I felt helpless, watching from afar as people I knew were blasted with pepper spray or shot with rubber bullets, simply for believing that innocent children should not be handcuffed and torn away from their community and family. One young protester was dragged viciously across the pavement by a masked officer wearing what appeared to be tactical military gear. A friend reported that her stepdad, a Vietnam veteran, was pepper-sprayed; another sent a video of an officer roughly throwing a slight silver-haired woman to the ground.

https://www.hcn.org/articles/ice-raids- ... as-become/
In Portland, police/ICE were witnessed purposely pulling a protestor over a boundary, as an excuse to allow a line of officers to rush a crowd:

https://www.kptv.com/2025/10/26/video-p ... over-line/

There are dozens of videos of ICE or CBP intentionally ramming vehicles from the side and then aggressively or violently dragging occupants out. As mentioned previously, the r/illinois subreddit has collected many examples of this happening in and around the Chicago area.
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canpakes wrote:
Fri Nov 14, 2025 4:40 am
ICE and CPB, with help from friendly local authority, are asking to see papers. In some cases, they’re carting folks off without even giving people the chance to produce them. . . ICE and local authorities have been aggressive with protests and have worked to either break many up, or instigate a conflict in order to justify attacking. . . In Portland, police/ICE were witnessed purposely pulling a protestor over a boundary, as an excuse to allow a line of officers to rush a crowd. . . There are dozens of videos of ICE or CBP intentionally ramming vehicles from the side and then aggressively or violently dragging occupants out. As mentioned previously, the r/illinois subreddit has collected many examples of this happening in and around the Chicago area.
Right. Those actions are obviously deplorable. But you're describing ICE, not the national guard, which is the focus of Hound of Heaven's post.
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