Lake of fire.
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Quantum1982
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Mormonism is Satanic.
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This is a discussion board, not a piss on your neighbor board.
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If by "Satanic" you mean terrified of coffee, singing 19th-century white hymns, and being obsessed with hoarding money, then yeah, they are guilty as charged.
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Surely you've read the Old Testament, Huck. I have, many times. Biblical racism within the House of Israel was beyond the pale.huckelberry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 8:33 pmMormon propaganda, well I am willing to to check out actual Bible evidence.Shulem wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 7:30 pmThe Jews were a very racist people and their skins were much lighter than darkies in Africa who were not permitted to enter the temple or perform any priesthood functions that belonged only to those of Israelite lineage.
Blacks need not apply. The temple doors were shut against black people. Go back to Africa!
Only the chosen were allowed to worship God in the Jewish temple.
Num 3:10 wrote:And thou shalt appoint Aaron and his sons, and they shall wait on their priest's office: and the stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death.
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So, what else is new?
How much is the price of tea in China these days?
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This refers to anybody such as most Israelites or Jews who were not Levites.Shulem wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 9:24 pmSurely you've read the Old Testament, Huck. I have, many times. Biblical racism within the House of Israel was beyond the pale.huckelberry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 8:33 pmMormon propaganda, well I am willing to to check out actual Bible evidence.
Num 3:10 wrote:And thou shalt appoint Aaron and his sons, and they shall wait on their priest's office: and the stranger that cometh nigh shall be put to death.
I am not going to push you to like the narrow and violent dimensions of the Old Testament I just do not see the issue of dark or black skin figuring in.
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I'm simply stating that even if a black man was to beg on bended knee there was no chance he would be granted access into the temple let alone perform service therein. No exceptions! The Jews would have ordered the black man or any other man (white, yellow, green) of an unfit race to beat it and get lost; Especially the black man because he couldn't fake his identity and pretend to be of the lineage of Levi because of his dark/black skin! The Israelites were extremely racist and their temple was even more so.huckelberry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 9:44 pmThis refers to anybody such as most Isrealites or jews who were not Levites.
I am not going to push you to like the narrow and violent dimensions of the Old Testament I just do not see issue of dark or black skin figuring in.
And, I might add, the whole House of Israel was built upon the foundation of polygamy via Jacob's wives.
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Any Israelite could marry a black person. Any black person could convert and participate as a regular Israelite at temple. The priests who conducted were limited to specific families. Levites could marry non-Levites so African blood could get mixed in. Perhaps limitations for priests, especially high priests, might prevent mixture but since Jews have always been mixed race it is unclear to my knowledge.Shulem wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 9:56 pmI'm simply stating that even if a black man was to beg on bended knee there was no chance he would be granted access into the temple let alone perform service therein. No exceptions! The Jews would have ordered the black man or any other man (white, yellow, green) of an unfit race to beat it and get lost; Especially the black man because he couldn't fake his identity and pretend to be of the lineage of Levi because of his dark/black skin! The Israelites were extremely racist and their temple was even more so.huckelberry wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2026 9:44 pmThis refers to anybody such as most Isrealites or jews who were not Levites.
I am not going to push you to like the narrow and violent dimensions of the Old Testament I just do not see issue of dark or black skin figuring in.
And, I might add, the whole House of Israel was built upon the foundation of polygamy via Jacob's wives.
You might consider that Moses married a black woman.
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Accounting for the beginning of Moses's religion in the wilderness and shortly thereafter in the land of Canaan under Joshua, only Levites (descendants of Levi) could work in the innermost parts of the temple and perform the rites of Aaron. No blacks allowed, period.huckelberry wrote: ↑Sat Mar 28, 2026 12:21 amAny Israelite could marry a black person. Any black person could convert and participate as a regular Israelite at temple. The priests who conducted were limited to specific families. Levites could marry non-Levites so African blood could get mixed in. Perhaps limitations for priests, especially high priests, might prevent mixture but since Jews have always been mixed race it is unclear to my knowledge.
You might consider that Moses married a black woman.
The historical saga that continued thereafter was long and tedious in which I don't account for in my statement.
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Matthew 14:11
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.