Not only have I considered that that is exactly what he has been doing all along, I am becoming increasingly certain of it. That is precisely what is so worrisome and dangerous about Trump's behavior, and why it is so important to do everything legally possible to remove him and his enablers from political office and ban them from ever again running for any political office, even if imprisoning them for life is the only way to ensure that.Equality wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:10 pmHave you considered that maybe that's exactly what Trump has been doing all along? Everything about the last ten years makes a lot more sense if people would just accept the fact that yes, indeed, Trump is working to weaken the United States and democracies around the world while strengthening authoritarian mafia states and enrich himself and his oligarch buddies.Gunnar wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 6:53 pmWow! considering all the above, it is evident that Trump could not have made our situation worse if he had deliberately tried to do so! The Senate's failure to convict Trump in even his first impeachment was a disastrous mistake, let alone the second impeachment for brazenly attempting a coup because he lost an unequivocally fair election that even his own appointed Attorney General admitted was fair and secure.
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No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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FURIOUS World Leaders BLAST Trump after FATAL INSULT!!!!
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on world leaders discussing publicly how Trump’s attack on NATO soldiers in Afghanistan was the final straw in trying to keep any type of productive relationship with the United States and Meiselas interviews former United States Ambassador to Denmark Rufus Gifford about what he’s hearing in Denmark about Trump’s final betrayal.
The magnitude, naïvété and cruelty of Trump's insult to other world leaders, especially our NATO allies is incomprehensible!
Trump accused NATO forces of providing only half-hearted, negligible support and holding back from the most dangerous actions. The truth is that NATO troops died and were wounded in full partnership with American troops, and NATO doctors and medics treated all casualties of the conflict equally, including Americans. Denmark, whom Trump particularly, belittled, lost a higher per capita of their own citizens in that conflict than any other nation, including the USA itself, on whose behalf they participated!
Does anyone dare to deny Trump has massively disgraced himself and his nation by these remarks? I doubt there is any chance of the USA regaining its former respect, trust and leadership reputation in the world, perhaps for decades, if ever.
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on world leaders discussing publicly how Trump’s attack on NATO soldiers in Afghanistan was the final straw in trying to keep any type of productive relationship with the United States and Meiselas interviews former United States Ambassador to Denmark Rufus Gifford about what he’s hearing in Denmark about Trump’s final betrayal.
The magnitude, naïvété and cruelty of Trump's insult to other world leaders, especially our NATO allies is incomprehensible!
Trump belittles and insults NATO for not ever have been sufficiently supportive of the USA despite the fact that:What Article 5 Is
Article 5 is the cornerstone of NATO’s collective defense principle. It states that if a NATO member experiences an armed attack in Europe or North America, all other members consider it an attack against them and are obliged to assist the attacked member. Assistance can include military force or other actions deemed necessary to restore and maintain security, consistent with each member’s constitutional processes and international law, particularly Article 51 of the UN Charter on self-defense.
In addition, the embarrassingly chaotic withdrawal of U.S. and allied troops from Afghanistan, leading to the immediate return of the Taliban's despotism was clearly the fault of Trump -- not Biden.Historical Application
Article 5 has been invoked only once in NATO’s history, following the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. NATO allies unanimously agreed that the attacks, directed from abroad by al-Qaeda, constituted an armed attack under Article 5. NATO deployed AWACS aircraft to patrol U.S. airspace (Operation Eagle Assist) and conducted naval operations in the Mediterranean (Operation Active Endeavour). Some allies contributed forces bilaterally outside NATO command, and NATO later assumed command of the International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan.
Trump accused NATO forces of providing only half-hearted, negligible support and holding back from the most dangerous actions. The truth is that NATO troops died and were wounded in full partnership with American troops, and NATO doctors and medics treated all casualties of the conflict equally, including Americans. Denmark, whom Trump particularly, belittled, lost a higher per capita of their own citizens in that conflict than any other nation, including the USA itself, on whose behalf they participated!
Does anyone dare to deny Trump has massively disgraced himself and his nation by these remarks? I doubt there is any chance of the USA regaining its former respect, trust and leadership reputation in the world, perhaps for decades, if ever.
No precept or claim is more suspect or more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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The last 6 words explain every action he takes.Equality wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:10 pmHave you considered that maybe that's exactly what Trump has been doing all along? Everything about the last ten years makes a lot more sense if people would just accept the fact that yes, indeed, Trump is working to weaken the United States and democracies around the world while strengthening authoritarian mafia states and enrich himself and his oligarch buddies.
Few billionaires actually care about allegiance to any country or its people. Trump doesn’t care one whit about America any more than he can use this nation and its citizens as a vehicle to enrich himself. He’s here because he can continue to do just this; he can leave at any time for any of three dozen other places on the globe when doing so will make it easier to keep adding to his wealth. The money that he’s generating now from the Presidency and his corrupt connections here and abroad will ensure his protection and legacy regardless of whatever borders he decides to live within.
To his credit, he knew exactly what racist and divisive BS he needed to publicly blurt out in order to sucker a third of the population into backing him, given that playing up to emotionally compromised people and their worst tendencies will guarantee their compliant sycophancy. They’ll never quit him not because of anything Trump does or doesn’t do, but because quitting Trump would be tantamount to admitting that they had made a mistake of judgment … and this is a segment of the population unable to tolerate or process that sort of introspection.
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Exactly! I am convinced that this unending obsession to continuing acquisition more and more wealth and power no matter how much they already have, no matter how many others have to suffer deprivation and harm in order for them to acquire it is a very real form of insanity!canpakes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2026 6:12 amThe last 6 words explain every action he takes.Equality wrote: ↑Wed Apr 08, 2026 10:10 pmHave you considered that maybe that's exactly what Trump has been doing all along? Everything about the last ten years makes a lot more sense if people would just accept the fact that yes, indeed, Trump is working to weaken the United States and democracies around the world while strengthening authoritarian mafia states and enrich himself and his oligarch buddies.
This is a serious problem. Too many people would rather risk remaining foolish and being perceived as such than risk the embarrassment of finding out and having to admit being or having been stupid. It behooves us all to always be willing to test and reexamine even our most cherished confirmation biases in the light of newer and better evidence and ready to confirm, modify or abandon them as warranted by such evidence. Without that, real progress and improvement is impossible. This is what it means to be "progressive" or "liberal." Like it or not, pragmatic reality does have a very strong and liberal bias.. . .They’ll never quit him not because of anything Trump does or doesn’t do, but because quitting Trump would be tantamount to admitting that they had made a mistake of judgment … and this is a segment of the population unable to tolerate or process that sort of introspection.
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Trump kills 170 school girls, spends billions and billions on the war, paved the way for a more hardline and anti-American leadership to now be in charge, hands the Strait of Hormuz over to Iran and then declares total victory. So much winning. It’s the kind of winning that looks suspiciously like a surrender.


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Ajax won't believe this. He will call it a fake forgery or something like that.
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I don't know about that. I suspect that Ajax may be no less a fan of Orbán than of Trump.Philo Sofee wrote: ↑Sun Apr 12, 2026 4:09 amAjax won't believe this. He will call it a fake forgery or something like that.
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The Straight that was open was closed by our attack so we demanded that it should be opened so that we could close it again in order to demand that it be opened.

The Straight that was open was closed by our attack so we demanded that it should be opened so that we could close it again in order to demand that it be opened.

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