Lem wrote: ↑Thu May 20, 2021 10:04 pm
The comments from consiglieri and Kishkumen have been extremely revealing. It is people like these two that make it so difficult to come forward when something has happened.
Yes, I am the one making it difficult for people to send emissaries to discussion boards to stoke outrage among strangers who don’t know them or their whole story. It couldn’t be that this whole approach is poorly advised. It must be me.
It could also be that this person I do not know and do not want to know thinks little of me and my opinion, which, as I have freely stated, is based on wholly inadequate information.
If so, she is pretty damned smart.
Between the comments like 'mental,' 'are you unhinged', 'she's losing it', 'serious things happened today how dare you have a problem,' the 12 single sentence paragraphs mocking the person while simultaneously stating they don't know the person, the poster who suggested this is trivial but still made the effort to look up a pic and determine if it was actually "sexy" or not, the one who stated it was her fault for doing the "crap" necessary to notice excessive liking but won't acknowledge that someone may legitimately feel uncomfortable, the "you don't know anything" while NEVER applying a similar standard to his own posts, all while defending their abuse by saying they think Dehhlin could behave better--but not actually applying the same rigid standards to him that they have used to trash women, etc. , this thread is a perfect example of the Crap people face when trying to come forward about something.
Hopefully this healthy, well-adjusted person with a legitimate grievance understands that I don’t know enough to be able to judge her actions, and that I am only offering my opinion based on what I was told. Yes, her case didn’t look too good based on what I was shown, but that can’t be her fault because she is not here to accuse John. She sent Meadowchik to do it for her. Or, perhaps more accurately, Meadowchik took it upon herself to present this person’s case, albeit with her permission.
She is not here to tell us how well Meadowchik did in terms of accuracy and completeness, so I don’t know what to make of her actual case. I only know what I think of Meadowchik’s project thus far and what she has presented. That may have little to do with this person.
Kish, you stated recently that you think you have interacted well with women online. Let me add to your information--no, you haven't. You absolutely have NOT. And consig, wow. I would never have thought this before this week, but you're a pig.
Awwwww.... Does this mean you won’t friend me on Facebook anytime soon? Or that you’ll be unfriending me?
How devastating!
On the other hand, other posters such as Doc Cam, dastardly stem, Dr. exiled and others have made some great, rational comments. Thank you. It has been an enlightening week here. I'm pretty sure I understand why various well known women from MD's past have for the most part left this forum.
Well done, gentlemen! I commend you. I knew I was taking a risk in presenting what I thought was, on the one hand, balanced censure of John Dehlin’s clearly poor behavior and, on the other hand, appropriate disdain for cyber-lynching on very partial evidence, but I can see that some people are outraged by my alleged callousness and depravity.
I am sure that the alleged exodus of women from here and MDB is the fault of knuckle-dragging subhuman scum like consiglieri and me. Pigs, you know. It is so lovely to be treated with human compassion by those who judge so fairly and kindly as you do, Lem. You really know how not to hide your light under a bushel.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
