Four Hours at the Capitol: A Must Watch HBO Documentary

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You were also serious. It wasn't a joke until Jan. 7.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 1:03 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:23 am
You must not have watched the video. Rittenhouse was clearly under attack and was defending himself.
Right. And if I break into someone's house trying to rob them, and the owner attacks me, I can just kill them in self-defense.
He was in public, not private.
Let's simply forget about the fact that it was unlawful for me to be there in the first place.
Being in some place unlawfully doesn't justify the death penalty at the hands of a mob.
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Suppose somebody brings a gun to a public mall and aims, fires, and misses an innocent shopper.

Bystanders rush him in an uncoordinated attempt to stop him. Somebody from the crowd yells "kill him." It's an open carry state and another guy puts his hand on his holstered piece.

Does the shooter have a right to shoot anyone and anyone coming at him in order to escape?
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:53 pm
Suppose somebody brings a gun to a public mall and aims, fires, and misses an innocent shopper.

Bystanders rush him in an uncoordinated attempt to stop him. Somebody from the crowd yells "kill him." It's an open carry state and another guy puts his hand on his holstered piece.

Does the shooter have a right to shoot anyone and anyone coming at him in order to escape?
If this hypothetical were to hypothetically happen on Mars what would be the trajectory of the bullet?

Are you suggesting that any of your hypothetical conditions apply to an actual event? If so, could you restate the question using actual events?
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the hypothetical is hypothetical only.

It is not intended to represent what happened with Rittenhouse.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 3:16 pm
the hypothetical is hypothetical only.

It is not intended to represent what happened with Rittenhouse.
Thank you for the clarification.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:23 am
You must not have watched the video. Rittenhouse was clearly under attack and was defending himself.
What is a minor doing crossing state lines and wielding a semi-automatic assault rifle doing in this situation? Un-freaking-believable that ANYONE seeks to justify minors engaging in violent vigilantism.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:40 pm
Being in some place unlawfully doesn't justify the death penalty at the hands of a mob.
Nor does it justify him being there with an assault rifle.
"I have learned with what evils tyranny infects a state. For it frustrates all the virtues, robs freedom of its lofty mood, and opens a school of fawning and terror, inasmuch as it leaves matters not to the wisdom of the laws, but to the angry whim of those who are in authority.”
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Kishkumen wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:43 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:40 pm
Being in some place unlawfully doesn't justify the death penalty at the hands of a mob.
Nor does it justify him being there with an assault rifle.
What is an assault rifle? A black one? If it was brown would it be an assault rifle or just a rifle?

Kish, who fired first?
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Cultellus wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 7:47 pm
What is an assault rifle? A black one? If it was brown would it be an assault rifle or just a rifle?

Kish, who fired first?
If you think that 17 year old kids should go around with deadly weapons as vigilantes or as self-appointed security forces, then there is nothing to talk about on this one. There simply is no justification for it.
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