Markk wrote:What part of what he wrote is not true?
Let's start with the very first line, which is a lie:
when they went into the east in 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners and so forth,
The World Holocaust Remembrance Center that Marcus quoted, accurately summarizes Cooper as saying:
WHRC wrote:Recently, Darryl Cooper, in a podcast with Tucker Carlson, made statements that grossly misrepresent the German Nazi regime’s actions during Operation Barbarossa in 1941. Cooper claimed that the Nazis were "unprepared" to handle millions of prisoners of war and political dissidents,
Markk summarizes Cooper incorrectly, giving us a clue about the way in which Cooper lies.
Markk wrote:My point about Cooper and still is that his claim, which was disputed by some, is that the Germans were no prepared for the Millions of political prisoners, POW's, and Jew's
Cooper doesn't mentions Jews in Markk's quote. He's either lumping Jews into "political prisoners," a lie and gross misuse of the term, or as "so forth". That's like saying the trillions in US national debt is made up of school lunch programs, foreign aid, and some such, is a truthful statement. But the debt comparison yet fails to match the magnitude of the lie in an important way. Let's go through a portion of the Wiki writeup carefully:
Wiki wrote: By mid-1935, there were only five camps, holding 4,000 prisoners, and 13 employees at the central IKL office. At the same time, 100,000 people were imprisoned in German jails, a quarter of those for political offenses.[21] Believing Nazi Germany to be imperiled by internal enemies, Himmler called for a war against the "organized elements of sub-humanity", including communists, socialists, Jews, Freemasons, and criminals. Himmler won Hitler's backing
They were on the brink of closure. Totally unnecessary, when Himmler, the guy Markk is insisting "felt bad" fires up the need to fill them, and in fact, is the guy who convinced Hitler to do it!
Wiki wrote:By the end of June 1938, the prisoner population had expanded threefold in the previous six months, to 24,000 prisoners.
Wiki wrote:After the Kristallnacht pogrom in November 1938, 26,000 Jewish men were deported to concentration camps following mass arrests, overwhelming the capacity of the system
After years of activity, the camps got up to 24,000 of political prisoners and criminals and etc., and then doubled with one sweep of Jews, overwhelming the system. The system is overwhelmed at 50,000. There's not "millions" living well in camps and suddenly, where's the food?
Wiki wrote:Most of the Jewish prisoners were soon released, often after promising to emigrate
WOW! It never occurred to Markk of Cooper that if there's too many people overcrowding the camps, then one option is to let them go! And the Nazis did just that, after all, there wasn't the barest pretense for arrest in the first place!
Wiki wrote:The number of prisoners tripled from 21,000 in August 1939 to about 70,000 to 80,000 in early 1942
The number of prisoners tripled from 21,000 in August 1939 to about 70,000 to 80,000 in early 1942.[35] This expansion was driven by the demand for forced labor and later the invasion of the Soviet Union. By 1942, we're a long ways away from the "millions" Cooper promised us.
The camps shift focus to forced labor with those who couldn't work executed, and then later, Soviet POWs executed in gas chambers. We're somewhere around 100,000 and the Nazis are already conducting mass exterminations. In other words, they'd already figured out options for overcrowding 1) letting innocent civilians go 2) mass exterminations, including with gas.
wiki wrote:During the second half of the war, Auschwitz swelled in size – fueled by the deportation of hundreds of thousands of Jews – and became the center of the camp system. It was the deadliest concentration camp and Jews sent there faced a virtual death sentence even if they were not immediately killed, as most were. In August 1943, 74,000 of the 224,000 registered prisoners in all SS concentration camps were in Auschwitz.
So we're deep into Auschwitz, and still the "millions" of prisoners Markk has promised us are nowhere to be found.
wiki wrote: Most Jews who were persecuted and killed during the Holocaust were never prisoners in concentration camps.[51] Significant numbers of Jews were imprisoned beginning in November 1938 because of Kristallnacht, after which they were always overrepresented as prisoners.[63] During the height of the Holocaust from 1941 to 1943, the Jewish population of the concentration camps was low.[31] Extermination camps for the mass murder of Jews—Kulmhof, Belzec, Sobibor, and Treblinka—were set up outside the concentration camp system.[64][65] The existing IKL camps Auschwitz and Majdanek gained additional function as extermination camps.[44][66]
So far I've been quoting the wiki entry on Concentration Camps. Switching to Extermination Camps:
Wiki wrote:Nazi Germany used six extermination camps (German: Vernichtungslager), also called death camps (Todeslager), or killing centers (Tötungszentren), in Central Europe, primarily in occupied Poland, during World War II to systematically murder over 2.7 million people – mostly Jews – in the Holocaust
Now, we get into Markk's millions. The big numbers that had something to do with a "camp" were those torn from their homes and sent directly to extermination camps. After having read the few quotes I've provided, let's reread Markk's second favorite liar:
Cooper wrote:"when they went into the east in 1941, they launched a war where they were completely unprepared to deal with the millions and millions of prisoners of war, of local political prisoners and so forth, that they were going to have to handle; they went in with no plan for that...and, they just threw these people into camps and millions of people ended up dead there.
There were never of millions of prisoners of war or political prisoners or "so forth" Jewish people to feed. Millions of people were not just ending up dead there. The Nazis were executing them if they didn't make economic sense or just letting Jews go before there were even 100,000 prisoners and there were never "millions" of prisoners being held and fed.
We can't take farmers and take all their people and send them back because they don't have maybe what they're supposed to have. They get rid of some of the people who have been there for 25 years and they work great and then you throw them out and they're replaced by criminals.